----- Original Message ----- From: "Shiu M. Hung" <shiuhung@pacbell.net> To: <NewPacifica@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: [freekpfk] How Was Miguel's Protest? > comments interspersed. > > Shiu > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "evan davis" <evan@iwaynet.net> > To: <NewPacifica@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:18 AM > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: [freekpfk] How Was Miguel's Protest? > > > > Shiu; > > Surely you are aware that there is a great risk involved in > > promoting theories as to the true nature of the Sept. 11 cover-up. > > The risk is greater for 'humanity' for not even asking hard questions > to challenge the official narratives. The entire "endless war" pretext is > based on 9/11. > The WMD issue in Iraq is just a red herring to redirect everyone's attention > away from > the big lie. > > The 9/11 coverage by Goodman covers mostly about the human tragedy of 9/11, > and her > other aspect of coverage are merely a repeat of the same old lies > perpetrated by the establishment > media. Of course, she will glibly talk about the Chilean 9/11 but what else > is new? Is she insinuating > that other USG supported and sponsered malfeasance can only occured half way > around the world but > it can never happen inside our own boarder? The "incompetence/foreknowlege" > views of former CIA agents > McMichael and McGovern are nothing more than theories and Goodman didn't > seemed to > have any problem with their credibility. > > I > > can't speak for Amy Goodman and the veracity or thoroughness of her > > reporting on this issue except to say that I am confident she would not > > report anything as fact that she did not know to be true and has > > evidence to support any claims. > > She has pushed the USG lies from day one on her DN. She has not once > question the credibility of the explaination given by the USG about the > collapse > of the WTC and the Pentagon crash, and there's plenty of contradictions in > the > official story on those two issues which has yet to make airtime on her much > revered > DN. She attended the recent Ruppert/McKinney event and sat at the front row > taking notes. > Why is she continuing to sit on the information available from Ruppert and > Chossudovsky? > And are we to believe that Professor Chossudovsky's own reputation doesn't > make any > difference as far him putting his own reputation on the line? > > Michael Rupert has been given un-fair > > treatment at times by Pacifica but he and Chusodovsky (sp?) and their > > "evidence", while intriguoing and worth investigating falls short of the > > high standards for proof that a high-profile program like Democracy Now > > needs to maintain. Just look at what the Zionists did to Cynthia > > McKinney for merely suggesting that Bush & co. MIGHT have known > > something in advance. We have to be very careful and very thorough. > > Yes, as long as my fellow Pacificans continue to rely on the left > gatekeepers (Chip Berlet; > Norman Soloman; Larry Bensky; Michael Albert; Chomsky; Goodman....) to > influence their own thinking, then 'alternative' analysis such as Ruppert's > will continue to receive > less than desirable airtime on Pacifica airwaves, and only tuck in the > corner of some local radio > weekly program. > > What the Zionists did to McKinney should not be a reason why Pacifica Radio > shouldn't continue to try to advance the coverage of the official lies. We > might as > well pack up and give up if we are so concern about how we are perceived. > Isn't > the urge to 'survive' more important than 'personal image'? > > > KPFK, on the other hand - and in particular the KPFK News Dept. HAS > > devoted some coverage to this topic and while they stopped short of > > making unsupportable claims they did a good job of presenting crucial > > questions we need to be asking. They even had Ruppert on at least once. > > I hope you realuize that by focusing so narrowly on the 9-11 > > controversy and withdrawing your support for Pacifica based solely on > > that issue you ARE putting yourself in league with the Rafaelites. They > > maintain a local discussion list which is censorial and closed to anyone > > who has not sworn a certain allegiance to Michael Ruppert or who has in > > any way questioned Rafael and the so-called "unity caucus". > > The reason i am so attached to the 9/11 coverup is because i rely on my > common sense > that for all the reasons thus far promoted by the media is far from the > truth, and i am witnessing > the dire economic downturn right in front of my face. What is so troubling > is to witness my left > brothers and sisters acquiescing to this new lie about the terror threat. > And it is terribly demoralizing > to also witness DN -- the starship of Pacifica Radio -- go by the wayside as > being the USG misinformation > perpetrating instrument of this great big lie. > > It does no good to advance the 'blowing open' of the offical lies > when the discussions occurs only at the local station level, because all it > does > is lend more credit for people to accept Goodman's version of 9/11 -- which > is > basically the official lies -- rather than to programs like GNB and Taking > Aims. > The 9/11 skeptic discussion needs to be taken seriously at the 'national' > level in order > to bring forth a proper course of action that will stop the US's intention > to use 9/11 as a pretext > to prosecute the phony war on terror, which does nothing but commit murders, > waste our money, > and decrease our civil liberties. > > The "forensics" of 9/11 research and analysis discovery is currently > overwhelming in > support of a vast governement/media coverup, and it is received with silence > on DN. > When was the last time we heard any discussions about the WTC collapse -- as > presented > by the official narrative -- having violated the 'laws of physics'? Of > course, we heard plenty > talking on DN about the 'violation of the emotional states of those who were > at and near > ground zero, but where are the 'alternative' discourse? Even if one > subscribe to the red herring > of Pacifica Radio as the place where "diversity" of views are heard, DN has > so far failed even in that > approach. Are we to expect to follow the 'smell test' provided by Amy > Goodman on issues > that affects our lives? even common sense tells us that the official version > just couldn't be > true because it violates every "laws of physics" in the book? Has Goodman > ever gave any airtime > to WTC 'demolition' as what may have brought down the twin towers? Has she > ever talked about > why and how Building #7 could have collasped the way it did when it was not > even hit by anything? > Has she ever mentioned George W's brother Melvin as the managing director of > the security firm > that managed the security of the WTC before 9/11? > > Lets face it, while Goodman has done some good work on other topics, she has > failed miserably on the > one issue that matters the most. 9/11 is relating to everything else in our > lives right now. Our government > is doing all it can to insure its citizenry not finding out their complicity > with 9/11 so they can continue to > perpetrate the phony 'war on terror'. Meanwhile, billions and billions of > our money is going towards shoring up > this "terror threat" madness. The left media is not without guilt in > allowing this madness to continue by not exposing > the official lie about 9/11. > > > I agree that the "diversity discussion" has largely been a > > mis-direction of energies - mainly because the REAL work of increeasing > > Pacifica's "diversity" ( in programming) has been done by people who > > have nothing to do with the "unity caucus" yet it has been the "unity > > caucus" which has capitalized on the diversity battle-cry to stymie > > Pacifica's democratization and to waste tens - or, in fact hundreds of > > thousands of dollars that could have been spent on utreach and training > > and developing community-based production studios - all of which have > > been proposed by people who are NOT a part of the "unity caucus". > > Nevertheless, Shiu; don't think anyone is "baiting" you - and of > > course you are always welcome and encouraged to remain involved.\ > > If you are referring to Sidhharta's diversity diatribe, i gave up on him a > long time ago. > When he tried to pandered to me about going to SF Chinatown to round up my > consitituents > to support my last running on the LAB, i laughed at his ridiculous nonsense. > > > Evan Davis > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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