From the goodlight board: kudos to the author for this excellent analysis. Carolyn Anonymous LaForest wants to waste a tens of $thousands more? Thu Sep 4 23:49:56 2003 162.83.160.82 Ray's latest motion from the iPNB phone conference, from http://www.wbai.net/bylaws_revise/br_ipnb_min9-2-03.html: 4. The 24 participants in the Chicago meeting will be invited (and their transportation subsidized, if needed) to participate in a portion of the Sept. 19-21 iPNB meeting in New York City dealing with bylaws. Pacifica's keeping it quiet, but the numbers I've hard are anywhere from $10,000-$20,000 to fly these 24 partipants to the LAST mediation session that accomplished nothing. Now, if you're one of the participants who get's rewarded with ANOTHER paid vacation if you DON'T accomplish anything, my guess is they'll have mediations every couple weeks, touring the country. My suggestion is a four corners run: Maine, Key West, San Diego, then Seattle. 5. At the iPNB's Sept. 19-21 NYC meeting, the Chicago participants will have a facilitated discussion to complete the process of reaching specific agreements on compromise by-laws language. So -- have ANOTHER Diversity Language Committee, that wasted thousands and failed to write anything, and SPECIFICALLY failed in that Ray promised to get TWO legal opinions ON RECORD (not hearsay)... he didn't do that, WHY? 6. At that meeting, the iPNB will appoint a committee, including LAB members, to write the final bylaws language, and the attorney(s) recommended at the Chicago meeting will be invited to assist in this process. Ah... ANOTHER Diversity Language Committee... where's the language they were supposed to write, and where's the language this 3-person committee that Ray is a part of that came out of the mediation? The mediation wrap-up notes of 08/23/03 at <http://www.wbai.net/bylaws_revise/br_chi_notes_cagan8-18-03.html said: a) A committee of 3 people was set up to take up the next step in the work we started in Chicago: Joe Wanzala, Lydia Brazon and Ray LaForest. b) This committee will develop a proposal on the items we did not yet reach agreement on, and will circulate that back to all of us. This is supposed to happen within the next 2 to 3 days. Let's see: 8/23 plus 3 days = 8/26, it's now 9/4, so WHERE THE HELL are these proposals? Ray's demonstrated contempt on this process hardly deserves to be REWARDED with another $10,000-$20,000 of listener money wasted, does it? He has failed to produce the legal opinions, and he's failed to produce what he promised to produce at the mediation, therefore he is a failure in this process and this 3-person committee has shown they are either unwilling or unable to function. This is AT LEAST the third strike for LaForest on bylaws, why throw MORE money down this sinkhole? $10,000 buys quite a bit of gear to do FUCKING RADIO! Anyone remember that? 7. The iPNB will then determine at that meeting an expeditious schedule for elections to the Local Station Boards and Pacifica National Board." So, have another round of meetings and paid vacations where the obstructors like Ray can make MORE promises they'll fail to keep? RUMSFELD is laughing at this plan of action, his pre-planning for Iraq was more substantial. -- ******************************************* http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WBAIelections/ http://www.wbai.net ******************************************** ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> ReplayTV: CNet Ranked #1 over Tivo! Instant Replay & Pause live TV. Special Sale: 50% off! http://us.click.yahoo.com/G93ZAD/.5qGAA/ySSFAA/xYTolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> New Pacifica Working Group http://www.egroups.com/group/NewPacifica 'Save Our Stations!' To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: NewPacifica-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/