This is called anarchy In a message dated 5/20/2008 1:41:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fflefever@xxxxxxxxx writes: Terry, this could be usefully re-posted at: _http://www.listenerhttp://www.http://www.listhttp://wwwhttp://wwhttp://www_ (http://www.listenerforums.net/cgi-bin/issues_config.pl?noframes;read=85748) Also at: _http://groups.http://grohttp://groups.<Whttp_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/friendsofwbai/) Will you do it, or may I? --Frank Lefever ===================================== --- In _NewPacifica@NewPacifica@New_ (mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) , Terry Goodman <tgoodman@..t> wrote: > > On Mon May 19, 2008, Mitchel Cohen wrote: > > >I am proposing the following change, to be discussed and voted upon > >at the upcoming LSB meeting on Wednesday, May 21, 7 pm. > > > >The purpose of the following proposal to change procedure at Local > >Station Board meetings is to allow members of WBAI, and not only > >delegates to the Board, to participate in an organized, disciplined > >way in discussions of Reports and other matters brought to the LSB. > <snip> > > I would caution against calling this procedure simply a "Quasi > Committee of the Whole," because the Parliamentary Authority already > defines that body and its rules differently, and it is a already a > useful method as it stands that would be surrendered upon such > substitution. Rather than modify the rules of a Quasi Committee of > the Whole, the WBAI LSB could establish a permanent LSB Advisory > Committee of the Whole, define its purpose as informal consideration > within committee of the single topic under discussion at the LSB > meeting for which the committee meeting was called, its membership as > being all who are present at the LSB meeting in question, including > LSB Members and all other attendees (unless the LSB cares to restrict > to Foundation members in the original motion), it's notice requirement > as satisfied by notice of the LSB meeting at which the committee > meeting occurs,* and its chair as the then presiding LSB Chair or > Chair Pro-Tem. By default, this committee would operate under the > same rules as any other committee, but if the motion establishing the > committee includes the special rules outlined in your proposal, then > those rules rather than the default committee rules thereby suspended > would then apply to this LSB Advisory Committee of the Whole. Where > not specifically suspended, the regular rules of order for committees > would still apply. Among the special rules I'd suggest for this > committee, it would have no quorum requirement and it would be > automatically adjourned when the Chair calls for the LSB meeting to > re-convene. > > The "informal consideration" phrase allows a person to speak more than > once, or some back-and-forth consultation to occur. The "advisory" > and "in committee" terms underscore that the decisions of the > committee are not binding on the LSB. > > Your proposal to authorize the Chair discretion to "declare" an LSB > meeting recess for a fixed-duration meeting of the Advisory Quasi > Committee of the Whole could be separately proposed as an LSB special > rule of order, but I don't think it really necessary. Once the > mechanism of all present automatically being members of an instantly > available permanent committee is recognized, the Chair could entertain > a motion to use the mechanism at any time and any LSB Member could > similarly move to recess for this purpose. > > Discussions in this committee would naturally inform the discussion of > any pending question before the LSB when it re-convenes, and > individual LSB members are free to make and second related motions, > perhaps to amend the motion on the floor from another committee; but > it should be made very clear whether or not the committee will be > allowed to vote on motions and whether or not any motions approved in > this committee are to obtain immediate consideration rather than await > a different time on the agenda. > > --Terry Goodman > > *For strict compliance with notice requirements, it might be best if, > once this committee was established, all future LSB meeting notices > include mention that a meeting of the LSB Advisory Committee of the > Whole may occur during the meeting. This might not strictly be > necessary because the bylaws say that notice at an LSB meeting is > deemed adequate notice for LSB committees. ============================================= **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)