RE: [NewPacifica] FW: [LAAMN] Neither U.S. Aggression Nor Theocratic Repression

["L. Mirza" <haq4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, its so great to have Camillia back after such a
long hiatus. I met her in the days I became
re-involved with Pacifica at a PAC meeting. I have
from the beginng had deep respect for her and am so
pleased she's back on the list.

--- Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Richard,
>    
>   I can't say I don't have a certain affection for
> you, but one thing you need to learn is an expert is
> a person who's stopped learning. Lorraine is a
> primary source for this subject. Most of us learned
> the rest of it from the Beatles.
>    
>   I learned something really interesting in this
> discussion. I learned from Camilla that any study of
> Western history leads toward either a mistrust of
> religion or out and out atheism. Islam has always
> been a religion of scholars and authors while
> Christianity has been dominated by the ignorant and
> the book burners.
>    
>   Did you know that convicted rapest and drug addict
> Jim Bakker is back in the TV evangilism business? 
>    
>   Thank you, Camilla. I'm happy to see you on the
> list.
>    
>   Kevin bin Troy ibn Mohammed
>    
>   
> 
> Richard <rsierra7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   For a number of reasons I'm not getting into
> here....I wanna get off this
> damn comp.
> 
> But, for a third time, here's a link: 
> http://www.nysun.com/article/22712
> 
> Dear Loraine, my life would be much simpler if you
> just accepted everything
> I say. :)  /R
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of L. Mirza
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 6:47 AM
> To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [NewPacifica] FW: [LAAMN] Neither U.S.
> Aggression Nor
> Theocratic Repression
> 
> 
> Richard,
> Just how do you get the impression, the elected
> government of Iraq is allied with the US? Since I
> follow Ayatollah Seestani  and also speak daily with
> a
> lot of folks I have known for years in Iraq I
> understand the strategy of the coalition.
> 
> That strategy is to take measures to get the
> Americans
> out of Iraq ASAP. The sooner the coalition forms a
> stable government, the sooner the Americans will
> have
> no further excuse to continue the occupation. The
> so-called insurgency on the other hand is committing
> its acts of violence in attempts to ferment
> sectarian
> divisions, create instability, prevent rebuilding of
> infastructure and prolong US occupation.
> 
> It is the US trying to create its version of a free
> market economy, which only really means, how much
> oil
> they can exploit before they are given the boot.
> 
> --- Richard <rsierra7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > The short of it is I don't support any gov allied
> > with the present US gov
> > and currently that's reality as I see it. Free
> > market democracy is not for
> > me.
> >
> > No, I wasn't in Iraq and Iran as the war was on
> and
> > there was no way I could
> > obtain a visa in Jordan or elsewhere.  /R
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of L. Mirza
> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 7:52 PM
> > To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [NewPacifica] FW: [LAAMN] Neither
> U.S.
> > Aggression Nor
> > Theocratic Repression
> >
> >
> > Why do you reject the current Iraq government
> > Richard?
> > It was elected. The winners were a coalition of
> > mostly
> > Shia, but some Kurdish and Sunnis, oh and I
> > understand
> > there is a Christian party in it as well.
> >
> > The first election was boycotted by most or at
> least
> > many Sunnis, so if they refused to stand up and be
> > counted how in the hell can they complain when not
> > in
> > the count!!!!
> >
> >  However, in the most recent and second election,
> > Sunnis did join in as both candidates and more
> voted
> > than in the first elections.
> >
> > The coalition that won the majority of votes is
> > certainly entitled to the government. This was not
> > an
> > installed government but one that was elected. Not
> > that it matters who you support Richard, since you
> > are
> > not an Iraqi and can not vote there. However,
> uncle
> > sam is doing its best to keep the pot boiling so
> it
> > can maintain the occupation.
> >
> > I don't recall hearing you had ever been to Iraq.
> I
> > have and the Shias were completely oppressed, the
> > only
> > slums in Baghdad were where the Shias lived, and
> > while
> > all of the Central and Northern Iraq were well
> > developed, had good water supplies and very good
> > roads, that changes drastically once you drive
> south
> > in Iraq. You could tell exactly where the southern
> > Iraqi dividing line was by the way the super four
> > lane
> > each way highway, suddenly turned into a one lane
> > dusty, pot-holed road. In the south all the cities
> > were crumbling, streets were in poor shape and
> > services such as water and electricity were
> minimal.
> > Unlike central Iraq where everything was rebuilt
> > from
> > the Gulf war, just 9 months earlier, nothing in
> the
> > south had been rebuilt since 1988 when the Iran
> Iraq
> > war ended, let alone the the 1991 Gulf war.
> >
> > Are you saying Richard, that an oppressed majority
> > can
> > not now be allowed to rule as a majority in their
> > own
> > country?
> >
> > --- Richard <rsierra7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > You last paragraph may turn out to be accurate
> but
> > > for the present Bush and
> > > his admin are hand in hand with Chalabi and I
> can
> > > only assume that's their
> > > intent for the future. With the current
> > arrangement
> > > I have to reject the
> > > Iraqi gov and hope things change for the better.
> > /R
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > Behalf Of L. Mirza
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:26 PM
> > > To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: [NewPacifica] FW: [LAAMN] Neither
> > U.S.
> > > Aggression Nor
> > > Theocratic Repression
> > >
> > >
> > > Chalabi is actually in no one's graces. He tied
> > his
> > > wagon to the coalition only because he figured
> > with
> > > Ayatollah Sistani's blessings, it would win the
> > > popular vote. Had there been a chance for the US
> > > backed candidate or another, he'd have hitched 
> to
> > > that wagon.
> > >
> > > Right now the coalition has no policy to bar
> > anyone
> > > who wanted to join in, and getting into any kind
> > of
> > > battle trying to bar some would only divert them
> > > from
> > > what already is a difficult situation. As I
> would
> > > guess from experience in other countries where
> > > numerous parties have joined together to defeat
> > one
> > > party or another, and the most recent aliance of
> > > past
> > > avowed enemies, Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif
> to
> > > defeat Parwaiz Musharaf, is an example
> expediency
> > > for
> > > a temporary period in order to gain political
> > > advantage. In Bhutto's father's time, 9 parties
> > > lined
> > > up in a coalition in an attempt to defeat him.
> > >
> > > In Iran five so-called "moderate" parties joined
> > up
> > > to
> > > attempt to gain in the elections. However,
> before
> > > the
> > > elections took place none of the five was
> willing
> > to
> > > bow out and support just one candidate. That led
> > to
> > > the election of Dr. Ahmedijad
> > >
> > > Today's allies will no doubt fall out and be
> > > tomorrow's rivals in Iraq as well.
> > >
> > > --- Richard <rsierra7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > No Bushy wasn't but now empowered Chalabi,
> back
> > in
> > > > US graces, and his
> > > > friends are the prime nexus btw him and the
> > Iraqi
> > > > gov and they have control
> > > > of the oil, defense, and finance ministries.
> > One
> > > > can look at the gov one
> > > > way or another but to me that, along with
> > > > Shia/Sharia domination of the
> > > > judiciary in the background, constitutes prime
> > > > power. I see an imperial
> > > > alliance and on that ground I object to the
> > Iraqi
> > > > government.
> > > >
> > > > This is an anti-imperialist POLITICAL position
> > re
> > > > the particular matters of
> > > > the two involved states and not an attack on
> the
> > > > islamic Faith in general.
> > > >
> > > > May Allah's will prevail.  /R
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > > Behalf Of L. Mirza
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 5:45 AM
> > > > To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: RE: [NewPacifica] FW: [LAAMN] Neither
> > > U.S.
> > > > Aggression Nor
> > > > Theocratic Repression
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > bush is not at all happy with the results of
> the
> > > > results of the elections in Iraq. He's just
> been
> > > > forced to live with the results. Have you
> > > forgotten,
> > > > the US state department backed another party
> > > > altogether? Now they have to learn to "live"
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > coalition party and try to make the best by
> > > > attempting
> > > > some manipulation. Thus, I am convinced that
> the
> > > US
> > > > is
> > > > behind much of the sectarian violence which of
> > > > course
> > > > gives the USA more time to keep the occupation
> > > > going.
> > > >
> > > > If peace really breaks out in Iraq uncle sam
> > will
> > > > have
> > > > to pack and leave.
> > > >
> > > > --- Richard <rsierra7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Come on, your first sentence is nonfactual
> > > > > spin....the new left is based on the fem
> > > principle
> > > > > not the male.  You're
> > > > > turning truth on its head.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey, all it boils down to is some support
> one
> > > set
> > > > of
> > > > > beliefs and others others; all tend to
> > encourage
> > > > > spread and
> > > > > empowerment of their own ideas and povs. 
> But
> > > then
> > > > > there's the matter of imperialism,
> > specifically
> > > > that
> > > > > of the US.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry, Altaf, but it's, like,
> > anti-imperial
> > > > left
> > > > > vs the imperial US gov and its allied govs
> and
> > > > mvts.
> > > > > That's the
> > > > > bottom line and it doesn't just happen Bush
> is
> > > pro
> > > > > the present Iraqi gov anymore than it used
> to
> > be
> > > > pro
> > > > > Shah. The new
> > > > > left works against the beast's interests not
> > for
> > > > > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > I might say it's interesting seeing if
> > Venezuela
> > > > can
> > > > > create an oil alliance contra the US, one
> > > > including
> > > > > Iran and other
> > > > > nations.  /R
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > > > Altaf Bhimji
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:27 PM
> > > > > To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: RE: [NewPacifica] FW: [LAAMN]
> Neither
> > > > U.S.
> > > > > Aggression Nor Theocratic Repression
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > this so-called "new left" however does wish
> > for
> > > > > regime changes in areas of the world that it
> > > knows
> > > > > nothing about - and
> > > > > as such is reactionary,  imperialist, and
> > > > > patriarchical (sure... it does not advocate
> > > > military
> > > > > intervention, but it ends
> > > > > up feeding the beast that it supposedly
> > opposes
> > > )
> > > > > ... because it does not believe in
> > > > > self-determination --- or the
> > > > > notion that people may decide to live in
> ways
> > > > other
> > > > > than the "new-left" ideology. And if a
> people
> > do
> > > > > chose a form of
> > > > > govt other than "new-left", the new-left
> will
> > > > > attribute that to "theocratic repression" or
> > > just
> > > > > plain backwardness of
> > > > > people (who then need to be "educated" on
> the
> > > > > virtues of the "new left").
> > > > >
> > > > > Altaf
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   -----Original Message-----
> > > > >   From: Richard
> > > > >   Sent: May 26, 2006 1:13 PM
> > > > >   To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   Subject: RE: [NewPacifica] FW: [LAAMN]
> > Neither
> > > > > U.S. Aggression Nor Theocratic Repression
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   The new left opposes Bush (christian
> > > > conservative)
> > > > > and the aligned Iraqi gov (islamic
> > conservative)
> > > > and
> > > > > they don't
> > > > > adhere to the Pres's form of imperial
> > democracy
> > > > nor
> > > > > do they support christian Law (Old
> Testament)
> > > and,
> > > > > finally, they
> > > > > don't approve of islamic Sharia. State legal
> > > > systems
> > > > > and movements based on the Law and Sharia
> are
> > > > > traditional and
> > > > > patriarchal. The new left everywhere and
> > > whatever
> > > > > its form is anti-patriarchalism and its many
> > > > > manifestations.
> > > > >
> > > > >   The new Iraqi Constitution, if I recall
> > > > correctly
> > > > > via Article 2....as well as elsewhere,
> > > establishes
> > > > > islamic Law
> > > > > (Sharia) as the high FOUNDATION and supreme
> > > source
> > > > > of national law.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Since the renaissance a secular left has
> > > existed
> > > > > throughout history having in our age spread
> > over
> > > > the
> > > > > face of the
> > > > > earth.  Then too, at times, deep calls to
> > deep.
> > > > >
> > > > >   So it is in heaven, on earth, and in the
> > sea.
> > > > /R
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   -----Original Message-----
> > > > >   From: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > > >   Behalf Of L. Mirza
> > > > >   Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:31 AM
> > > > >   To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   Subject: RE: [NewPacifica] FW: [LAAMN]
> > Neither
> > > > > U.S. Aggression Nor
> > > > >   Theocratic Repression
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   Well then the secular left should stop
> being
> > > so
> > > > >   arragent and trying to impose their
> > philosophy
> > > > on
> > > > >   others. What is the difference between
> them
> > > and
> > > > > bush's
> > > > >   regime change policy?  They want secular
> > then
> > > > they
> > > > > live
> > > > >   here and work on the areas needed of
> change
> > > and
> > > > >   correction here and not call for "regime"
> > > change
> > > > > in
> > > > >   countries they do not live or vote in or
> try
> > > to
> > > > >   interfer in those countries. Iran, BTW, IS
> a
> > > > > DEMOCRACY! They have had elections
> > > > >   since the Islamic revolution, including
> two,
> > > not
> > > > > just
> > > > >   one vote, on the type of government they
> > > wanted;
> > > > a
> > > > >   secular or religious. They have term
> limits
> > as
> > > > > well
> > > > >   for the President, who can only serve for
> > two
> > > > > terms,
> > > > >   then has to wait it out two terms before
> > > running
> > > > >   again. Even their constitution was put to
> a
> > > > > referendom
> > > > >   before being finally adopted. I've been in
> > > Iran
> > > > > during
> > > > >   the Iran and Iraq war when people dodged
> > > misiles
> > > > > being
> > > > >   dropped on them in order to get to the
> poles
> > > and
> > > > >   votes. 83% of qualified voters turned out
> > > during
> > > > > the
> > > > >   elections during the Iraq imposed and U.S.
> > > > > sponsored
> > > > >   war. That was more than impressive, but
> > > amazing,
> > > > > when
> > > > >   we see here, hardly 25-30% registered
> > voters,
> > > > not
> > > > > just
> > > > >   qualified voters,  turn-out in many
> > elections.
> > > > >
> > > > >   It is indeed NOT thercratic oppression
> when
> > > the
> > > > >   popular votes decide the form of
> government
> > is
> > > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > >   from a religious perspective.
> > > > >
> > > > >   --- Richard <rsierra7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >   > Regrets to those objecting to the LAAMN
> > > post's
> > > > >   > content but there was never
> > > > >   > any possibility of an American secular
> new
> > > > left
> > > > >   > supporting religious
> > > > >   > governments whether christian, jewish, i
> > > > slamic
> > > > > or
> > > > >   > whatnot.  The separation
> > > > >   > of church/temple/mosque and state
> > principle
> > > > >   > forestalls any such support.  /R
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >   > From: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > [mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > > >   > Behalf Of Altaf Bhimji
> > > > >   > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:11 PM
> > > > >   > To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] FW: [LAAMN]
> > > Neither
> > > > > U.S.
> > > > >   > Aggression Nor
> > > > >   > Theocratic Repression
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   > Yes, I agree totally with Loraine. I got
> > the
> > > > > same
> > > > >   > impression --- this is the
> > > > >   > same as the neo-con... you wish for
> > > > "elections"
> > > > > but
> > > > >   > if people elect someone
> > > > >   > you don't like... well then you go about
> > > > wishing
> > > > > for
> > > > >   > "regime change" --- How
> > > > >   > is that really , when it comes down to
> it,
> > > any
> > > > >   > different than the neo-con
> > > > >   > imperialists? Well the left better start
> > get
> > > > > used to
> > > > >   > seeing this happen all
> > > > >   > over the mid-east... or, remain totally
> > > > > irrelevant
> > > > >   > other than Saturday
> > > > >   > afternoon marches...
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >   > >From: "L. Mirza" <haq4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >   > >Sent: May 25, 2006 11:31 AM
> > > > >   > >To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > >Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] FW: [LAAMN]
> > > > Neither
> > > > > U.S.
> > > > >   > Aggression Nor
> > > > >   > Theocratic Repression
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > >This is bullshit, big time. How dare
> > others
> > > > who
> > > > > do
> > > > >   > not
> > > > >   > >live in Iran tell the Iranis what form
> of
> > > > >   > government
> > > > >   > >they should have.
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > >I applaud the majority of the Irani
> > working
> > > > > class,
> > > > >   > and
> > > > >   > >working poor for their good judgement
> in
> > > > > chosing
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > >government. I wonder how many on that
> > list
> > > of
> > > > >   > >signatories has actually been in Iran,
> > has
> > > > > actually
> > > > >   > >met thousands of those "theocrats"
> label
> > > > them.
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > >Sure like the priviliged classes in
> Cuba
> > > and
> > > > >   > >Venueseula, the wealthy Iranians don't
> > > > support
> > > > > the
> > > > >   > >Islamic government. But the working
> class
> > > and
> > > > > the
> > > > >   > poor
> > > > >   > >know exactly what they want! In the
> > > > elections
> > > > >   > before
> > > > >   > >this one they tried a so-called
> moderate
> > > > > (Khatamie)
> > > > >   > >and after being neglected, burned and
> > > > watching
> > > > >   > their
> > > > >   > >society turn into greedy western style
> > > > > consumerism,
> > > > >   > >70% of the people of Iran came out and
> > > voted,
> > > > > and
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > >majority voted for the most religious
> of
> > > the
> > > > >   > >candidates.
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > >You know the left/progressive
> > intelligencia
> > > > is
> > > > > not
> > > > >   > so
> > > > >   > >superior as they claim. They just as
> > > ignorant
> > > > > and
> > > > >   > >prejudice and the neo-cons.
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > >--- Richard <rsierra7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >   > >> From: laamn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > >> [mailto:laamn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > >   > >> Ed Pearl
> > > > >   > >> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 6:03 AM
> > > > >   > >> To: Ed Pearl
> > > > >   > >> Subject: [LAAMN] Neither U.S.
> > Aggression
> > > > Nor
> > > > >   > >> Theocratic Repression
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Iran: Neither U.S. Aggression Nor
> > > > Theocratic
> > > > >   > >> Repression
> > > > >   > >> - A call for a new, democratic U.S.
> > > foreign
> > > > >   > policy
> > > > >   > >> in
> > > > >   > >> the Middle East
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Dear Friend,
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> As the Administration escalates its
> > > threats
> > > > >   > against
> > > > >   > >> Iran, we are writing to invite you to
> > > sign
> > > > > the
> > > > >   > >> Campaign
> > > > >   > >> for Peace and Democracy statement
> > "Iran:
> > > > > Neither
> > > > >   > >> U.S.
> > > > >   > >> Aggression Nor Theocratic Repression
> -
> > A
> > > > call
> > > > > for
> > > > >   > a
> > > > >   > >> new, democratic U.S. foreign policy
> in
> > > the
> > > > > Middle
> > > > >   > >> East." The text is below. If you
> would
> > > like
> > > > > to
> > > > >   > add
> > > > >   > >> your
> > > > >   > >> name or donate to publicize the
> > > statement,
> > > > > please
> > > > >   > go
> > > > >   > >> to
> > > > >   > >> our website www.cpdweb.org (if for
> any
> > > > reason
> > > > > you
> > > > >   > >> have
> > > > >   > >> difficulty at the website, just send
> us
> > > an
> > > > > email
> > > > >   > at
> > > > >   > >> cpd@xxxxxxx)
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Please join Michael Albert, Tom
> > Ammiano,
> > > > > Stanley
> > > > >   > >> Aronowitz, Rosalyn Baxandall, Eileen
> > > Boris,
> > > > >   > Jeremy
> > > > >   > >> Brecher, Noam Chomsky, Ariel Dorfman,
> > > > Martin
> > > > >   > >> Duberman,
> > > > >   > >> Rusti Eisenberg, Carlos R. Espinosa,
> > > Samuel
> > > > >   > Farber,
> > > > >   > >> Mansour Farhang, Barbara Garson,
> Larry
> > > > Gross,
> > > > >   > Mina
> > > > >   > >> Hamilton, Thomas Harrison, Howie
> > Hawkins,
> > > > > Adam
> > > > >   > >> Hochschild, Nancy Holmstrom, Doug
> > > Ireland,
> > > > > Joy
> > > > >   > >> Kallio,
> > > > >   > >> Larry Kramer, Joanne Landy, Jesse
> > > Lemisch,
> > > > > John
> > > > >   > >> Leonard, Sue Leonard, Rabbi Michael
> > > Lerner,
> > > > >   > Nelson
> > > > >   > >> Lichtenstein, Norman MacAfee, Marvin
> &
> > > > Betty
> > > > >   > >> Mandell,
> > > > >   > >> David McReynolds, David Oakford,
> > Barbara
> > > > > Watson
> > > > >   > >> Pillsbury, Henry Pillsbury, Frances
> Fox
> > > > > Piven,
> > > > >   > Nancy
> > > > >   > >> Romer, Ruth Rosen, Peter Rothberg,
> > > Matthew
> > > > >   > >> Rothschild,
> > > > >   > >> Jennifer Scarlott, Jay Schaffner,
> > Sydney
> > > > >   > Schanberg,
> > > > >   > >> Stephen R. Shalom, Wallace Shawn,
> > > Meredith
> > > > > Tax,
> > > > >   > >> Cornel
> > > > >   > >> West, Cora Weiss, Peter Weiss, Edmund
> > > > White,
> > > > >   > >> Reginald
> > > > >   > >> Wilson, and Howard Zinn in signing
> this
> > > > >   > statement.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Signers names and affiliations (for
> > > > >   > identification
> > > > >   > >> only) will be listed on the Campaign
> > for
> > > > > Peace
> > > > >   > and
> > > > >   > >> Democracy website and in other public
> > > > venues.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> In peace and solidarity,
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Joanne L andy, Thomas Harrison, and
> > > > Jennifer
> > > > >   > Scarlott
> > > > >   > >> Co-Directors, Campaign for Peace and
> > > > > Democracy
> > > > >   > >> Please
> > > > >   > >> go to the CPD website at
> www.cpdweb.org
> > > to
> > > > > sign,
> > > > >   > >> donate, or see the full list of
> > signers.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> IRAN: NEITHER U.S. AGGRESSION NOR
> > > > THEOCRATIC
> > > > >   > >> REPRESSION
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Just as it did before its invasion of
> > > Iraq,
> > > > > the
> > > > >   > Bush
> > > > >   > >> administration is manufacturing a
> > climate
> > > > of
> > > > > fear
> > > > >   > in
> > > > >   > >> order to prepare public opinion for
> > > another
> > > > > act
> > > > >   > of
> > > > >   > >> aggression -- this time against Iran.
> > > Three
> > > > > years
> > > > >   > >> ago
> > > > >   > >> it was the specter of Saddam
> Hussein's
> > > > > alleged
> > > > >   > >> weapons
> > > > >   > >> of mass destruction; today it's the
> > > threat
> > > > of
> > > > > a
> > > > >   > >> possible Iranian nuclear bomb.
> > > Washington's
> > > > >   > >> immediate
> > > > >   > >> goal is to get the U.N. Security
> > Council
> > > to
> > > > >   > impose
> > > > >   > >> sanctions on Iran and, in all
> > > probability,
> > > > to
> > > > >   > >> justify a
> > > > >   > >> military attack on Tehran's nuclear
> > > > > facilities --
> > > > >   > a
> > > > >   > >> job
> > > > >   > >> that may be outsourced to Israel. The
> > > White
> > > > > House
> > > > >   > >> even
> > > > >   > >> insists on keeping the catastrophic
> > > > "nuclear
> > > > >   > option"
> > > > >   > >> on
> > > > >   > >> the table -- that is, using tactical
> > > > nuclear
> > > > >   > weapons
> > > > >   > >> to
> > > > >   > >> strike Iranian nuclear facilities,
> many
> > > of
> > > > > which
> > > > >   > are
> > > > >   > >> located in or near civilian
> population
> > > > > centers.
> > > > >   > >> Although a full-scale invasion of
> Iran
> > is
> > > > > highly
> > > > >   > >> unlikely at the moment, there can be
> > > little
> > > > > doubt
> > > > >   > >> that
> > > > >   > >> the neoconservatives in the Bush
> > > > > administration
> > > > >   > have
> > > > >   > >> a
> > > > >   > >> grand strategy that includes,
> > eventually,
> > > > > "regime
> > > > >   > >> change" in Tehran as a way of further
> > > > > enlarging
> > > > >   > U.S.
> > > > >   > >> imperial power.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> We strongly oppose the U.S.
> occupation
> > of
> > > > > Iraq:
> > > > >   > it
> > > > >   > >> has
> > > > >   > >> brought appalling suffering to the
> > Iraqi
> > > > > people
> > > > >   > with
> > > > >   > >> fatalities in the tens of thousands,
> > > > descent
> > > > > into
> > > > >   > >> civil
> > > > >   > >> war and the strengthening of the most
> > > > >   > authoritarian
> > > > >   > >> elements in Iraqi society -- as well
> as
> > > > more
> > > > > than
> > > > >   > >> 2,400
> > > > >   > >> U.S. soldiers dead and thousands more
> > > > > wounded.
> > > > >   > >> Likewise, the U.S. government's
> > attempts
> > > to
> > > > > bully
> > > > >   > >> Iran
> > > > >   > >> are succeeding mainly in terrorizing
> > the
> > > > > Iranian
> > > > >   > >> people
> > > > >   > >> and weakening internal opposition to
> > the
> > > > > mullahs.
> > > > >   > >> The
> > > > >   > >> Bush administration's claim that it
> is
> > > > > promoting
> > > > >   > >> democracy in these two countries is
> the
> > > > > grossest
> > > > >   > >> hypocrisy; its only interest is power
> > and
> > > > > control
> > > > >   > of
> > > > >   > >> oil resources. We, on the other hand,
> > > care
> > > > > very
> > > > >   > much
> > > > >   > >> about the ability of the Iraqi and
> > > Iranian
> > > > > people
> > > > >   > to
> > > > >   > >> control their own societies, about
> > civil
> > > > >   > liberties
> > > > >   > >> and
> > > > >   > >> the rights of women, gays, workers,
> and
> > > > > ethnic
> > > > >   > >> minorities there. That is why we
> raise
> > > our
> > > > > voices
> > > > >   > >> against the current threats to Iran
> and
> > > > call
> > > > > for
> > > > >   > >> immediate withdrawal of all U.S.
> forces
> > > > from
> > > > >   > Iraq.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> We too would like to see a regime
> > change
> > > in
> > > > >   > Tehran,
> > > > >   > >> but
> > > > >   > >> one brought about by the Iranian
> people
> > > > >   > themselves,
> > > > >   > >> not
> > > > >   > >> by Washington. For 26 years Iran has
> > been
> > > > > ruled
> > > > >   > by a
> > > > >   > >> repressive theocracy. Behind the
> formal
> > > > > trappings
> > > > >   > of
> > > > >   > >> democracy, real power is held by an
> > > > > un-elected
> > > > >   > >> oligarchy of clerics; all electoral
> > > > > candidates
> > > > >   > must
> > > > >   > >> receive their approval, and their
> > > authority
> > > > > is
> > > > >   > >> enforced
> > > > >   > >> by gangs of religious thugs.
> President
> > > > >   > Ahmadinejad
> > > > >   > >> is a
> > > > >   > >> Holocaust denier who has called for
> the
> > > > >   > elimination
> > > > >   > >> of
> > > > >   > >> Israel.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Iranian women lack some of the most
> > basic
> > > > > human
> > > > >   > >> rights.
> > > > >   > >> They cannot dress, work, travel or
> > choose
> > > > > spouses
> > > > >   > >> freely. "Honor killing" is legal, and
> > by
> > > > law
> > > > >   > women
> > > > >   > >> can
> > > > >   > >> be hanged or stoned to death for
> > > "unchaste
> > > > >   > >> behavior."
> > > > >   > >> Millions of Iranian women find ways
> to
> > at
> > > > > least
> > > > >   > >> partly
> > > > >   > >> circumvent these restrictions, and
> > > > relatively
> > > > > few
> > > > >   > >> suffer the most extreme penalties.
> > Women
> > > > vote
> > > > > and
> > > > >   > >> sit
> > > > >   > >> in parliament, and there are
> > significant
> > > > > numbers
> > > > >   > of
> > > > >   > >> women both in university and at the
> > > > > workplace.But
> > > > >   > >> the
> > > > >   > >> fact remains that there are few
> > countries
> > > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > >   > >> world
> > > > >   > >> where women face legal handicaps as
> > > severe
> > > > as
> > > > >   > those
> > > > >   > >> in
> > > > >   > >> Iran.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Workers who try to strike or form
> > > > independent
> > > > >   > trade
> > > > >   > >> unions are often violently put down.
> > > Large
> > > > >   > numbers
> > > > >   > >> of
> > > > >   > >> workers have not been paid for months
> > and
> > > > in
> > > > > some
> > > > >   > >> cases
> > > > >   > >> for years. Attempts to organize are
> > > > > frequently
> > > > >   > >> attacked
> > > > >   > >> by club- and knife-wielding
> > mercenaries,
> > > > > security
> > > > >   > >> forces and the military. Despite this
> > > > > repression,
> > > > >   > >> workers are continuing to organize,
> > > > however,
> > > > > and
> > > > >   > >> independent unions are gaining a
> > > foothold.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> As in many countries, homosexuality
> is
> > > > > outlawed,
> > > > >   > but
> > > > >   > >> Tehran has go ne further than most by
> > > > making
> > > > >   > >> homosexual
> > > > >   > >> conduct by men or women punishable by
> > > death
> > > > > and
> > > > >   > >> unleashing a vicious pogrom against
> > > Iranian
> > > > > gays,
> > > > >   > >> many
> > > > >   > >> of whom have been tortured, beaten,
> and
> > > > > publicly
> > > > >   > >> executed. The government is carrying
> on
> > a
> > > > > massive
> > > > >   > >> campaign of entrapment through the
> > > > Internet;
> > > > >   > victims
> > > > >   > >> are subjected to constant
> surveillance,
> > > > loss
> > > > > of
> > > > >   > >> employment, arrest, and violent
> > blackmail
> > > > > that
> > > > >   > >> forces
> > > > >   > >> them to reveal the names of other
> > > > > homosexuals.
> > > > >   > >> Torture
> > > > >   > >> is used to make gay people confess to
> > > > crimes
> > > > > they
> > > > >   > >> never
> > > > >   > >> committed. The basiji and other
> > religious
> > > > >   > parapolice
> > > > >   > >> forces kidnap gay people, who are
> > > > sequestered
> > > > > and
> > > > >   > >> tortured until they name names. Gays
> on
> > > the
> > > > >   > >> government's lists are forbidden to
> > leave
> > > > the
> > > > >   > >> country.
> > > > >   > >> And now Iran has exported its violent
> > > > > anti-gay
> > > > >   > >> crusade
> > > > >   > >> to Iraq.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> In recent years there has been
> growing
> > > > > resistance
> > > > >   > >> within Iranian society, particularly
> > from
> > > > > workers
> > > > >   > >> fighting privatization and
> unemployment
> > > and
> > > > > young
> > > > >   > >> people chafing against social and
> > > political
> > > > >   > >> repression.
> > > > >   > >> This resistance holds the promise of
> > > > bringing
> > > > >   > >> grassroots democratic change to Iran.
> > The
> > > > > threat
> > > > >   > of
> > > > >   > >> military action or broader and
> harsher
> > > > > sanctions
> > > > >   > >> from
> > > > >   > >> outside -- and especially the
> > horrifying
> > > > > menace
> > > > >   > of
> > > > >   > >> nuclear strikes --only serve to rally
> > > > people
> > > > >   > around
> > > > >   > >> the
> > > > >   > >> regime and to give it another excuse
> to
> > > > clamp
> > > > >   > down
> > > > >   > >> on
> > > > >   > >> dissent, inhibiting a potentially
> > > > > revolutionary
> > > > >   > &g t;> process
> > > > >   > >> and strengthening the right-wing
> > clerics.
> > > > > U.S.
> > > > >   > >> threats
> > > > >   > >> have already served to legitimize
> > nuclear
> > > > > weapons
> > > > >   > to
> > > > >   > >> the Iranian people.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation
> > > Treaty,
> > > > > Iran
> > > > >   > has
> > > > >   > >> the right to develop civilian nuclear
> > > > power,
> > > > >   > though
> > > > >   > >> the
> > > > >   > >> Bush administration has tried to
> > obscure
> > > > this
> > > > >   > fact.
> > > > >   > >> Many of us oppose the use of nuclear
> > > power
> > > > by
> > > > > any
> > > > >   > >> country, both for environmental
> reasons
> > > and
> > > > >   > because
> > > > >   > >> of
> > > > >   > >> its link to nuclear weapons -- but
> that
> > > is
> > > > > not
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > >> issue in the present U.S.-Iran
> > > > confrontation.
> > > > >   > While
> > > > >   > >> there is reason to doubt Tehran's
> > > > assurances
> > > > > that
> > > > >   > it
> > > > >   > >> only wants to develop civilian
> nuclear
> > > > > energy,
> > > > >   > Iran
> > > > >   > >> is
> > > > >   > >> probably still several years away
> from
> > > > being
> > > > > able
> > > > >   > to
> > > > >   > >> produce nuclear weapons. And if
> Tehran
> > > > > acquires
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > >> bomb, it is unlikely that the
> > ayatollahs,
> > > > who
> > > > >   > hold
> > > > >   > >> decisive power, would use it since it
> > > would
> > > > > be
> > > > >   > >> suicidal
> > > > >   > >> to do so. Israel alone has between
> 200
> > > and
> > > > > 300
> > > > >   > >> nuclear
> > > > >   > >> warheads capable of striking Iran,
> and
> > > this
> > > > > is
> > > > >   > not
> > > > >   > >> counting the thousands of warheads
> the
> > > U.S.
> > > > > can
> > > > >   > >> launch
> > > > >   > >> at Iran. Nevertheless, there is no
> > > > guarantee
> > > > > that
> > > > >   > >> Iran,
> > > > >   > >> or any other state armed with nuclear
> > > > > weapons,
> > > > >   > won't
> > > > >   > >> use them or make them available to
> > > others.
> > > > As
> > > > >   > long
> > > > >   > >> as
> > > > >   > >> these barbaric weapons exist, they
> can
> > be
> > > > > used,
> > > > >   > and
> > > > >   > >> the
> > > > >   > >> more countries that possess them the
> > more
> > > > > likely
> > > > >   > it
> > > > >   > >> is
> > > > >   > >> over time that they will be used.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> We therefore strongly oppose any
> effort
> > > by
> > > > > Tehran
> > > > >   > to
> > > > >   > >> acquire nuclear weapons. But as long
> as
> > a
> > > > > handful
> > > > >   > of
> > > > >   > >> nations arrogate to themselves the
> > > > exclusive
> > > > >   > right
> > > > >   > >> to
> > > > >   > >> possess nuclear weapons, the
> have-nots
> > > will
> > > > >   > always
> > > > >   > >> be
> > > > >   > >> able to point to the threat posed by
> > the
> > > > > nuclear
> > > > >   > >> powers
> > > > >   > >> and will constantly seek to acquire
> > such
> > > > > weapons
> > > > >   > for
> > > > >   > >> themselves -- as North Korea has
> > already
> > > > > done,
> > > > >   > >> withdrawing from the
> Non-Proliferation
> > > > Treaty
> > > > >   > >> regime.
> > > > >   > >> Likewise, Iran, which has been
> menaced
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > >   > U.S.
> > > > >   > >> for
> > > > >   > >> more than two decades and was a
> charter
> > > > > member of
> > > > >   > >> Bush's "axis of evil," may opt out of
> > the
> > > > > NPT.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> An end to Washington's belligerence
> is
> > a
> > > > > crucial
> > > > >   > >> step
> > > > >   > >> in preventing Tehran from joining the
> > > > nuclear
> > > > >   > >> "club."
> > > > >   > >> Beyond that, the only way to stop
> > > > > proliferation
> > > > >   > is
> > > > >   > >> for
> > > > >   > >> those countries that have nuclear
> > weapons
> > > > to
> > > > >   > begin
> > > > >   > >> disarming -- something the Bush
> > > > > administration
> > > > >   > and
> > > > >   > >> previous administrations of both
> > parties
> > > > have
> > > > >   > >> refused
> > > > >   > >> to do, despite the fact that the U.S.
> > is
> > > a
> > > > >   > signatory
> > > > >   > >> to
> > > > >   > >> the Non-Proliferation Treaty which
> > > commits
> > > > it
> > > > > to
> > > > >   > >> "pursue negotiations in good faith on
> > > > > effective
> > > > >   > >> measures relating to cessation of the
> > > > nuclear
> > > > >   > arms
> > > > >   > >> race
> > > > >   > >> at an early date and to nuclear
> > > > disarmament."
> > > > > At
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > >> same time the nuclear powers must
> work
> > > > toward
> > > > >   > >> nuclear-
> > > > >   > >> free zones around the world, but
> > > especially
> > > > > in
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > >> ; Middle East, a particularly
> volatile
> > > and
> > > > >   > dangerous
> > > > >   > >> region.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> We call for a new democratic U.S.
> > foreign
> > > > > policy
> > > > >   > >> that
> > > > >   > >> would deal with the threat posed to
> all
> > > of
> > > > us
> > > > > by
> > > > >   > >> terrorist networks, and by weapons of
> > > mass
> > > > >   > >> destruction,
> > > > >   > >> and promote real democracy in the
> > Middle
> > > > East
> > > > > and
> > > > >   > >> elsewhere, by:
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Renouncing the use of military
> > > intervention
> > > > > to
> > > > >   > >> extend
> > > > >   > >> and consolidate U.S. imperial power,
> > and
> > > > >   > withdrawing
> > > > >   > >> U.S. troops and bases from the Middle
> > > East.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Ending U.S. support for authoritarian
> > and
> > > > > corrupt
> > > > >   > >> regimes, e.g. Saudi Arabia, the Gulf
> > > states
> > > > > and
> > > > >   > >> Egypt.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Opposing all forms of terrorism
> > worldwide
> > > > --
> > > > > by
> > > > >   > Al
> > > > >   > >> Qaeda, Iraqi death squads, and
> > > Palestinian
> > > > >   > suicide
> > > > >   > >> bombers, and by U.S.-backed forces
> like
> > > the
> > > > >   > >> Colombian
> > > > >   > >> paramilitaries and the Israeli
> military
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > >   > >> Occupied
> > > > >   > >> Territories -- as well as the
> brutality
> > > and
> > > > >   > >> humiliation
> > > > >   > >> inflicted on Iraqis every day by U.S.
> > > > > occupation
> > > > >   > >> forces
> > > > >   > >> and Washington's ominous threats
> > against
> > > > > Iran.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Supporting the right of national
> > > > >   > self-determination
> > > > >   > >> for
> > > > >   > >> all peoples in the Middle East,
> > including
> > > > the
> > > > >   > Kurds,
> > > > >   > >> Palestinians and Israeli Jews. Ending
> > > > support
> > > > > for
> > > > >   > >> Israeli occupation of the West Bank
> and
> > > > >   > oppression
> > > > >   > >> of
> > > > >   > >> the Palestinian people.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Taking unilateral steps toward
> > renouncing
> > > > > weapons
> > > > >   > of
> > > > >   > >> mass destruction, including nuclear
> > > > weapons,
> > > > > and
> > > > >   > >> vigorously promoti ng international
> > > > > disarmament
> > > > >   > >> treaties, instead of obstructing even
> > > > minimal
> > > > >   > >> efforts
> > > > >   > >> to end the arms race.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> Abandoning the effort to impose,
> > through
> > > > the
> > > > >   > >> IMF/World
> > > > >   > >> Bank or unilaterally, neoliberal
> > economic
> > > > >   > policies
> > > > >   > >> of
> > > > >   > >> privatization and austerity that
> bring
> > > mass
> > > > >   > misery
> > > > >   > >> to
> > > > >   > >> people in large parts of the world.
> > > > > Initiating a
> > > > >   > >> major
> > > > >   > >> foreign aid program directed at
> popular
> > > > > rather
> > > > >   > than
> > > > >   > >> corporate needs.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> The majority of people in this
> country
> > > now
> > > > >   > believe
> > > > >   > >> that
> > > > >   > >> the invasion of Iraq was disastrously
> > > wrong
> > > > > and
> > > > >   > that
> > > > >   > >> they were systematically lied to by
> the
> > > > Bush
> > > > >   > >> Administration about the reasons for
> > > going
> > > > to
> > > > >   > war,
> > > > >   > >> and
> > > > >   > >> they are wary of new U.S. military
> > > > > intervention
> > > > >   > in
> > > > >   > >> the
> > > > >   > >> Middle East. At the same time, the
> > > > >   > administration's
> > > > >   > >> scare tactics may succeed in
> generating
> > > > > popular
> > > > >   > >> support
> > > > >   > >> for aerial attacks on Iran. It is
> > > therefore
> > > > >   > >> imperative
> > > > >   > >> to speak out now against Washington's
> > > > > threats, to
> > > > >   > >> educate public opinion, and to build
> > > > > organized
> > > > >   > >> opposition to aggression against
> Iran,
> > as
> > > > > well as
> > > > >   > >> support for immediate, complete
> > > withdrawal
> > > > > from
> > > > >   > >> Iraq.
> > > > >   > >> It is time to demand a new democratic
> > > U.S.
> > > > >   > foreign
> > > > >   > >> policy that genuinely expresses
> > > solidarity
> > > > > with
> > > > >   > the
> > > > >   > >> aspirations of people for liberty
> > > > everywhere,
> > > > >   > >> renounces
> > > > >   > >> once and for all imperial
> intervention,
> > > and
> > > > > is
> > > > >   > >> committed to real disarmament.
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   > >> [CPD's previo us statements,
> including
> > > "We
> > > > > Oppose
> > > > >   > >> Both
> > > > >   > >> Saddam Hussein and The War Against
> > Iraq:
> > > A
> > > > > call
> > > > >   > for
> > > > >   > >> a
> > > > >   > >> new, democratic U.S. foreign policy,"
> > > have
> > > > >   > appeared
> > > > >   > >> in
> > > > >   > >> The New York Times, The Nation, and
> The
> > > > >   > Progressive,
> > > > >   > >> as
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> > > > >   > war
> > > > >   > >> and
> > > > >   > >> repression in these dangerous times.]
> > > > >   > >>
> > > > >   >
> > > > >
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> > >
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> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > >Read "Internment Camps of Bangladesh,"
> by
> > > > > Loraine
> > > > >   > Mirza
> > > > >   > >Published by Crescent International
> > > > Newspapers,
> > > > >   > Inc.
> > > > >   > >300 Steelcase Road West, Unit 8,
> Markham,
> > > > > Ontario,
> > > > >   > Canada L3R 2W2
> > > > >   > >"The story of a long-suffering people
> > told
> > > > with
> > > > >   > compassion and sensitivity.
> > > > >   > All who care for justice must read this
> > > book.
> > > > >   > Loraine Mirza, an American
> > > > >   > Muslim print and broadcast journalist,
> has
> > > > > written
> > > > >   > this remarkable account
> > > > >   > of the 'Stranded Pakistanis,' trapped in
> > > > > internment
> > > > >   > camps in Bangladesh
> > > > >   > since 1972." (Zafar Bangash, Director of
> > > > > Institute
> > > > >   > of Contem porary Islamic
> > > > >   > Thought.)
> > > > >   > >For more information:
> > > > >   > >e-mail:  haq_for_u@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > >         info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > >         crescent@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > >         crescent.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >   > >Visit web sites:
> > > > >   > www.statelesspeopleinbangladesh.net
> > > > >   > >
> > > www.strandedpakistanis.com
> > > > >   > >                  www.OBATHelpers.org
> > > > >   > >                  www.muslimedia.com
> > > > >   > >                  www.ihrc.org
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Read "Internment Camps of Bangladesh," by Loraine Mirza
Published by Crescent International Newspapers, Inc.
300 Steelcase Road West, Unit 8, Markham, Ontario, Canada L3R 2W2
"The story of a long-suffering people told with compassion and sensitivity. All 
who care for justice must read this book. Loraine Mirza, an American Muslim 
print and broadcast journalist, has written this remarkable account of the 
'Stranded Pakistanis,' trapped in internment camps in Bangladesh since 1972." 
(Zafar Bangash, Director of Institute of Contemporary Islamic Thought.)
For more information:
e-mail:  haq_for_u@xxxxxxxxxxx
         info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
         crescent@xxxxxxxxxxxx
         crescent.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Visit web sites:  www.statelesspeopleinbangladesh.net
                  www.strandedpakistanis.com
                  www.OBATHelpers.org
                  www.muslimedia.com
                  www.ihrc.org


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