I think there is a lot more to this story than is being reported - I also don't think they are just being "held" at Guantanamo - given the treatment given to those at Abu Gharib... one of these days, soon, we'll find out more... Altaf -----Original Message----- >From: "L. Mirza" <haq4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: May 19, 2006 12:02 PM >To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Guantanamo Prison Guards, Inmates Clash > >FYI >I don't know what kind of "Muslims" these men are to >attempt or to commit suicide. Suicide is absolutely >forbidden in Islam and one of the few things one can >never be forgiven for. > >I realize conditions at Guantanamo are barbaric but I >am sure conditions for detainees in the aparthied >regime of South Africa were just as deplorable, but >there were rarely reports of suicide. > >One risking life and dying during defending family, >country or rights is not the same as suicide and is >the model for martyrdom in Islam. Thus, for example, >if these Guantanamo prisoners were killed during an >escape attempt, that would NOT be considered suicide >and could even fall under the criteria martyrdom. > >--- Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Guantanamo Prison Guards, Inmates Clash 1 >> hour, 6 minutes ago >> >> >> Prisoners wielding improvised weapons clashed with >> guards trying to stop a detainee from committing >> suicide at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, >> the military said Friday. >> The fight occurred Thursday in a medium-security >> section of the camp as guards were responding to the >> fourth attempted suicide that day at the detention >> center on the U.S. Navy base, said Cmdr. Robert >> Durand. >> Detainees used fans, light fixtures and other >> improvised weapons to attack the guards as they >> entered a communal living area to stop a prisoner >> who was trying to hang himself, Durand said. >> Earlier in the day, three detainees in another >> part of the prison attempted suicide by swallowing >> prescription medicine they had been hoarding. >> The detainees who took part in the clash with >> guards were moved to higher-security sections. >> Those who attempted suicide received medical >> treatment, the military said. Their names were not >> released. >> The incidents occurred on the same day the >> military transferred 15 Saudi detainees to their >> country, leaving about 460 detainees at Guantanamo. >> There have been 39 suicide attempts at Guantanamo >> since the prison opened in January 2002, the >> military said. At least 12 were by Juma'a Mohammed >> al-Dossary, a 32-year-old from Bahrain. >> Guantanamo Bay holds detainees suspected of links >> to al-Qaida or the Taliban. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/xYTolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> New Pacifica Working Group http://www.egroups.com/group/NewPacifica 'Save Our Stations!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewPacifica/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: NewPacifica-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/