check out Moazzam Beg's (a British Muslim, and former Guantanamo prisoner) talk on some of the other gulags here: http://ihsan-net.blogspot.com/2006/05/enemy-combatant.html Altaf On May 7, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Gary Evans wrote: > If Guantanamo is closed, that will still leave something like 24 > other secret prison/torture units around the world. Also, "...The > United States defended its treatment of foreign terrorism suspects > in a hearing before the committee in Geneva on Friday, saying it > backed a ban on torture" but the current US government believes > "torture-light" is ok, including sensory deprivation, self-induced > pain techniques (standing for many hours without motion), and > "water-boarding," which I understand is deep and terrible physical > torture. > > Gary Evans > > At 12:20 PM 5/7/2006, you wrote: >> Bush says he would like to close Guantanamo >> By Noah Barkin1 hour, 19 minutes ago >> >> President George W. Bush said he would like to close the U.S.-run >> prison at Guantanamo Bay -- a step urged by several U.S. allies -- >> but was awaiting a Supreme Court ruling on how suspects held there >> might be tried. >> >> "Of course Guantanamo is a delicate issue for people. I would like >> to close the camp and put the prisoners on trial," Bush said in >> comments to German television to be broadcast on Sunday night. The >> interview was recorded last week. >> >> Human-rights groups have accused the United States of mistreating >> Guantanamo detainees through cruel interrogation methods, a charge >> denied by the U.S. government. >> >> They also criticize the indefinite detention of suspects captured >> since the military prison was opened in 2002 at the U.S. naval >> base in Cuba, as part of the Bush administration's war on terrorism. >> >> Bush was asked by the German public television station ARD how the >> United States could restore its human-rights image following >> reports of prisoner abuse. >> >> "Our top court must still rule on whether they should go before a >> civil or military court," he said. >> >> "They will get their day in court. One can't say that of the >> people that they killed. They didn't give these people the >> opportunity for a fair trial." >> >> The quotes were translated by Reuters from a German transcript. >> >> The U.S. Supreme Court is expected to rule by the end of June on >> whether military tribunals of foreign terrorist suspects can proceed. >> >> Bush's comments were a reiteration of long-standing U.S. policy, >> Frederick Jones, spokesman for the White House National Security >> Council, said in Washington. >> "The United States has no intention of permanently detaining >> individuals, that is not our goal. We want to see all these >> individuals brought to justice," he said, whether in their home >> countries or in the United States. >> >> Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, however, has dismissed calls >> for the prison to be closed. >> >> "Every once and a while someone pops up and gets some press for >> saying 'Oh let's close Guantanamo Bay.' Well, if someone has a >> better idea, I'd like to hear it," Rumsfeld said in a February >> speech to the Council on Foreign Relations. >> >> The United States has 480 detainees at Guantanamo and has freed or >> handed over to their home governments a total of 272. The Pentagon >> has said it has no interest in holding anyone longer than >> necessary but that it has been unable to arrange for some to >> return to their home countries. >> >> The Pentagon says the detainees come from 40 countries and the >> West Bank, with the largest number from Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan >> and Yemen. >> >> In a report last week for the U.N. Committee against Torture, >> Amnesty International said torture and inhumane treatment were >> "widespread" in U.S.-run detention centers, including Guantanamo Bay. >> >> The United States defended its treatment of foreign terrorism >> suspects in a hearing before the committee in Geneva on Friday, >> saying it backed a ban on torture. >> (Additional reporting by Tabassum Zakaria in Washington) >> >> >> Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using >> Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. >> >> New Pacifica Working Group >> http://www.egroups.com/group/NewPacifica >> 'Save Our Stations!' >> >> >> >> SPONSORED LINKS >> Issues Pacifica Culture >> Participant Forging >> >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> Visit your group "NewPacifica " on the web. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> NewPacifica-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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