--- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Carolyn Birden <cmcb007@...> wrote: > But you see, I hope, how your well-intentioned effort to pose a > reasonable motion is used to leverage an illegal motion: your > input, quoted by Jack VanAken on the pnb list, was used to make > "reasonable" the entire question of restricting directors' inspection > rights. I did see it and here's what I thought, at the time..... During the meeting, the 'opposition' to the resolution only spoke against it. They didn't put forward suggestions on how to reword it. For instance, the words "recommended procedure" and "no more that 7 days" could have been proposed. That's part of meeting planning...to know what's coming and to be prepared to fix it. From what I could tell, most of the Board members didn't have the new wording in front of them. For that reason alone, it became a messy and complicated process to try to fix it, I suppose. btw, box.net is a free service where the latest versions of motions and documents can be posted and all the PNB can look at the files without to mess with email. The way I would do it is to set up a folder for each meeting and have the Agenda, the drafts of motions and any other documents of interest available. The first thing that happened was for Bob L. to drop his little bomb, "you should all have received a letter five minutes ago." If there was ever a reason to upbraid a Board member for misconduct, that was it. I heard no one complain about it. These meetings ought to start on a note of cooperation, not with WAR chants. Bob L really set the tone for what became a "showdown" sort of meeting. When he ended the by calling for your removal, that really showed us that the entire ordeal was a threatrical spectacle, not any serious effort to conduct business properly or effectively. When you listen the meeting, you'll also notice the insipid comparisons to "george bush" and other U.S. government targets -- "we at Pacifica are better than that!". Again, whenever the PNB members start to draw comparisons with their targets in the U.S. government, we know that someone has just mounted the soap box and all we're getting is another pointless speech and rhetorical personal attack against 'one of our own.' It's like they have hijacked Pacifica Foundation in order to promote their own political ideas, wouldn't you say? Nalini