--- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, wanzala@... wrote: > > What are the 'parties' that you see voting along the 'party lines' and how would you describes each 'party' and what motivates each. It seems a bit like the JUC faction in NY+WPFW vs LA+Houston with the leadership (Officers and ExDir) siding with JUC because the JUC folks manage to toss out words like "ethics" and "progressive" and "morality" appealing to the image of being crusaders. I don't know the motive. All I can say is that the vote to not allow Carolyn's email to be read was one of the most mean-spirited and below the belt things I've seen. These people have spent years on the Pacifica boards....they don't have 10 minutes to read something their own collegue mailed them two days ago? That's sheer bullshit. > > If the meeting was poorly prepared, that's not the whole board's fault, but the fault of one of the aforementioned 'parties'. Poor preparedness was evident at many times and I blame everyone. For those who were unprepared, that's they fault. For those who didn't take some headcounts and make sure to get enough people there, that's their fault. Bob L.'s bomb about the note to the PNB 5 minutes before the meeting is definately a horrible way to launch into a meeting, in total WAR mode, and of course he and the JUC in NY are directly to blame for that. Carolyn's email not being forwarded and presented within the agenda, that seems to be a problem with the chair/scty functions. Almost no one on the board had the text of Rob's new version. Dan could have clarified a lot with an email to everyone explaining why the first draft had been changed and that could have avoided a lot of confusion. The coordinating committee should have circulated the revised motion, with their explanations. The "condemnation" of recordings motion was sprung on the board, without any context. Sherry, I think, made a joke at the end (ha ha ha) about how tonights meeting could result in several lawsuits. (ha ha ha.) Leadership is what is missing. Not just at the meeting itself, but in the prep. This is not a group that is working together yet. Not by a long shot. Nalini