Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] [NewPacifica] Re: The KPFT Folio's Third Edition?



You fill the pages with hollow words. 

Jim was right, after all.   

The record stands and speaks for itself, I will add no more to it!.

...made in america



Nalini Lasiewicz <LasiewiczN@xxxxxxx> wrote:                               --- 
In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Emmett Abati Doe <abatidoe2@...> 
 wrote:
 >
 > Nalini, how many faces do you have? 
 > 
 > One face writes:   Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:23:58 EST
 >   LasiewiczN@... wrote:
 >     You have my permission to repost my note anywhere you wish. 
 >   All the best,
 >   Nalini
 >   
 > Another writes:   I feel no need to repost this to dozens of 
 websites and strangers that I've never met that you cc:d all this 
 stuff to, but if you want 
 >  to, you're more than welcome to.  Nalini
 
 Oh my goodness.  Another quagmire.  
 
 This note I sent yesterday, correcting your assertion that I 
 had "retracted" something, I only sent to New Pacifica.  If you want 
 others to get it, you have my permission.  I only wanted to let YOU 
 know, and the NP list members (where I first met you) to hear my 
 correction.  That's all.
 
 > You gave your opinion about my response to Robert Knight  and I 
 extended myself to you, because you had little opportunity to know 
 any thing of substance about me, and my life's commitments.  
 
 Same can be said of me.  You hardly know me at all.  The difference 
 between me and you, it seems, is that I'm judging you on what you 
 write.....and how you conduct yourself with all these bizarre cross-
 posting games.  But you judge me on my skin color.  That I already 
 know.  But now it seems you'd LOVE to find out if I'm Jewish so that 
 you can judge me that way as well.  Tsk tsk.
 
 > 
 > For the record: I do not acknowledge, haven given you the right to 
 set in judgment of how, what, and the way I choose to express myself, 
 as I have a few.  
 
 Oh please.  If you post messages on a public bullitan board and you 
 lose any right to tell others what their rights are!  For examply, 
 when you write that racist statement today, "all the arrogant 
 prerogatives of white privileged, while pretending to be 
 Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, Greens and Pacifians" you open 
 yourself up to the judgement of any reader.  They don't have to ask 
 your permission.  If you want to avoid getting frank feedback, then 
 simply don't make your notices public, that's all!
 
 > White people who use the ploy of "reverse racism" gained ground 
 because pmia leadership acted irresponsibly by letting them get away 
 with this absurdity unchallenged.  
 
 First of all, I agree with something Fred said a long time ago.  
 We're all part of the same race, and that's the human race.  Second, 
 I suspect they are different definitions of race, both literal and in 
 the venacular or every day use.  I see "racism" as "discrimination or 
 prejudice based on race."  Your repeated generalizations about "white 
 Pacificans" and "Jewish people" are, in my mind, prejudiced 
 statements.  If you are intent on repeating them, you risk getting 
 the same "slam" that you got from me.
  
 > 
 > The people made in america, (pmia) can be prejudice, but not 
 racist; 
 
 According to the dictionary, prejudice based on race IS racism, and 
 I'm getting the DISTINCT impression that you are prejudiced against 
 whites and jews, even though you don't intend to be! 
 
 >because we cannot deny white people or a white person an advantage, 
 opportunity, justice, employment, a place to live, a loan, or other 
 necessities of life including life itself, (as in unabated cop 
 killings and the growing number of vigilante summery executions)  
 based on that prejudice, as white people do every hour.<
 
 Do you understand that in this day and age there are people of color 
 who hold positions of power and there are many "whites" who don't? 
 
 > You have the right Nalini, to express how you feel or think about 
 something I say or have said, and I have shown my willingness to 
 respect that.  But, for you to act, as you have, as if you have the 
 right to couch me, and tell me how I should express myself, is why I 
 tried to educate you off line in hopes of avoiding what you have now 
 made unavoidable. 
 
 Let the record show, I definately don't want to couch you.  We're 
 both just sharing our opinions.
 
 > My remarks to Mr. knight were not, nor were they intended to be 
 racists, anti-Jewish, anti-Male or anti-white.  
 
 I said that.  I said that it's not your intent.  But it's just how 
 your remarks sounded.  You're dealing with the fallout.
 
 > I'm not intimidated by your being white, female or perhaps even 
 Jewish.
 
 OK....I'll tell you.  I'm not Jewish.  Does that make you feel 
 better?  
 
 In fact, having been raised by two secular parents, I was free to 
 choose my own religion, which I did in my late teens.  I'm a 
 practising Vedandist, and we believe that all religions are 
 fundamentally different paths to the same One.
 
 Here's my church choir:
 http://thegandharvas.com/give-us-peace.htm
 
 NL
 
 
     
                               
 

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