Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] [NewPacifica] Re: The KPFT Folio's Third Edition?



Like I said: I based what I wrote on the Financial Report and Statements made 
during the Slide Presentation of Lonnie Hicks at the PNB Meeting. 

If my notes are wrong and or miss interpreted, please advise. 

 I know what I heard and what was on the screen.  

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Melinda Iley-Dohn <Iley_dohn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:                               
Abati, 

Check out Terry's reply it is more thorough....


 Correct.  Pacifica's licenses were issued and are periodically renewed
 by the Federal Communications Commission, a government agency
 established by the Communications Act of 1934.  The Corporation for
 Public Broadcasting was established decades later by ammendment to the
 Communications Act.  The CPB is a private agency established to
 administer the allocation of public funds to certain FCC
 license-holders.  In license-renewal challenges where the issue of
  non-compliance with CPB regulations has been raised, the FCC has
 dismissed the arguments as outside of its jurisdiction, saying it
 relates to whether or not the licensee is to receive public funds from
 the CPB, not whether or not their license is to be renewed by the FCC.
 
 --Terry Goodman 

Emmett Abati Doe <abatidoe2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                          I don't think the CPB is the source of Pacifica's 
license to
 >  broadcast, however.
 >  
 >  --Frank LeFever


FYI: The above statement was Frank LeFever's not mine.  

Thanks for the 411 on the CPB,

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Pamela Somers <psomers1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                          The  FCC is the source of Pacifica's license to 
broadcast. The CPB is 
 (optional) funding that a Pacifica station can qualify for if it 
 meets CPB eligibility standards, which include station size, amount 
 of fundraising, culturally diverse programming and community advisory 
 boards.
 
 Pam
 
 --- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Emmett Abati Doe <abatidoe2@...> 
 wrote:
 >
 >  I don't think the CPB is the source of Pacifica's license to
 >  broadcast, however.
 >  
 > Perhaps not. 
 > 
 > Joe W. or any PNB Member can you clear this up?
 > 
 > ...made in america
 > 
 > 
 > Frank LeFever  <fflefever@...> wrote:                               
 The CPB supplies a small part of Pacifica's budget, conditional on its
 >  not only achieving "minority" representation, but also on REACHING 
  an
 >  audience.  WBAI has done very poorly on this, reaching a tiny 
 fraction
 >  of a potentially HUGE audience, and has lost part of its CPB 
 funding
 >  because of that shameful failure.
 >  
 >  I don't think the CPB is the source of Pacifica's license to
 >  broadcast, however.
 >  
 >  --Frank LeFever
 >  
 >  ======================================================
 >  --- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Emmett Abati Doe <abatidoe2@>
 >  wrote:
 >  >
 >  >  Emmett Abati Doe wrote: "...FLASH: Pacifica's Broadcaster 
 License
 >  was issued for and to  serve as a microphone for 'Minority' issues 
 and
 >  voices with specific
 >  >  thresholds.."
 >  >  --Frank LeFever wrote:  Nonsense!
 >  >  
 >  > 
 >  > Check  the Application, Terms and Conditions of the CPB Money.
 >  > 
 >  > I based what I wrote on the Financial Report and Statements made
 >  during the Slide Presentation of Lonnie Hicks at the PNB Meeting.  
 >  > 
 >  > If my notes are wrong and or miss interpreted, please advise. 
 >  > 
 >  >  I know what I heard and what was on the screen. 
 >  > 
 >  > Where were you?
 >  > 
 >  > ...made in america
 >  >  
 >  > 
 >  > Frank LeFever <fflefever@> wrote:                              
 >  --- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Emmett Abati Doe  <abatidoe2@>
 >  >  wrote:
 >  >  "...FLASH: Pacifica's Broadcaster License was issued for and to 
 serve
 >  >  as a microphone for 'Minority' issues and voices with specific
 >  >   thresholds..."
 >  >  
 >  >  Nonsense!
 >  >  
 >  >  --Frank LeFever
 >  >  
 >  >  ======================================================
 >  >  --- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Emmett Abati Doe 
 <abatidoe2@> 
 >  >  >
 >  >  > MaryAnn Wrote:
 >  >  > I think he means like "born (conceived) in the USA".
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > What I mean MaryAnn is:
 >  >  > I like La Raza (The Race) advocate for My People, the people 
 made in
 >  >  america"  those descendant's (Spoils of War) of those 
 prisoner's  of
 >  >  Wars enslaved in the belly of the beast of North america!
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > also, I did not know that Muslims were involved in slave 
 trade? 
 >  >  interesting.
 >   >  > 
 >  >  > And, so did some Jews traffic in Europeans selling them to 
 Muslims. 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > ...made in america
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > xtx1000@ wrote: hi Kevin,
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > I think he means like "born (conceived) in the USA".
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > also, I did not know that Muslims were involved in slave 
 trade? 
 >  >  interesting.
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > MaryAnn...(of hispanic heritage but born in the USA like 
 Abati)
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
 >  >  >   From:  Kevin White 
 >  >  >   To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; xtx1000@ ; Perrine Kelly ;
 >  >  fulcrumsofchange@ 
 >  >  >   Cc: newpacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; 
 friends_of_kpft@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 >  >  ; realpacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
 >  >  >   Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:19 AM
 >  >  >   Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] The KPFT 
 Folio's
 >  >  Third Edition?
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   Hi Abati,
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   My Irish ancestors were the N word of Europe long before the
 >  >  Muslims started the African slave trade. 
 >  >  > 
 >   >  >   Can I be included as well?
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   Kevin "Never a Made Man in Europe or America" White
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   ----- Original  Message ----
 >  >  >   From: Emmett Abati Doe >
 >  >  >   To: xtx1000@; Perrine Kelly 
 >  >  > >; fulcrumsofchange@
 >  >  >   Cc: newpacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
 friends_of_kpft@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
 >  >  realpacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 >  >  >   Sent: Friday, February 8, 2008 11:01:57 AM
 >  >  >   Subject: [NewPacifica] Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] The KPFT 
 Folio's
 >  >  Third Edition?
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   Hi MaryAnn,
 >  >  > 
 >   >  >   Pacifica has become a free-for-all, that any would be power 
 block
 >  >  has/could/can take over.
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   Consider WPFW in the control of Caribbeans solely  
 disinterested in
 >  >  the Survival/ Welfare Reality Issues of "the people made in 
 america",
 >  >  who management and staff pretend not only to be, but to 
 represent. 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   FLASH: Pacifica's Broadcaster License was issued for and to 
 serve
 >  >  as a microphone for "Minority" issues and voices with specific
 >  >  thresholds. Pacifica was never intended to serve white-artist,
 >  >  white-activist, white-writers and the anti-war military 
 industrial,
 >  >  police complex!   
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   Pacifica has changed hands any number of times but mostly 
 buy the
 >  >  same white and Zionist middle-class  masquerading as 
 progressives.
 >  >  ..except at WBAI.  As for WPFW it's a case-study and an anomaly 
 unto
 >  >  itself!  
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   It is time for some  real change at Pacifica, starting with 
 A GOOD
 >  >  HOUSE-CLEANING! 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   But, Just Where Do We Start and How?
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   ...made in america 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >   xtx1000@msn. com wrote: 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >     There should be a balance of management and listener 
 imput into
 >  >  the production of the folio. remember the original intent of the
 >  >  creation of Pacifica was to provide "all viewpoints". Giving one
 >  >  person full range to do and say what they want is not in line 
 with
 >  >  that mission.
 >  >  > 
 >   >  >     peace, MaryAnn
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >     > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:40:54 -0700> From:
 >  >  pkelly@perrinekelly  .com> To: fulcrumsofchange@ pacificana. org>
 >  >  Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] The KPFT Folio's Third Edition?
 > > You
 >  >  all are really smoothing over your edges, aren't you!> > > > 
 From:
 >  >  Kevin White > > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:44:30 -0800 (PST)> > 
 To:
 >  >  NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com, fulcrumsofchange@ pacificana. 
 org> >
 >  >  Subject: [Fulcrumsofchange] The KPFT Folio's Third Edition?> > 
 > > Of
 >  >  course, now that Ernesto is safely the folio's new editor, have 
 you
 >  >  noticed> > that suddenly there are no current issues? If 
 management
 >  >  can't control the> >  content of the publication it seems like 
 they'd
 >  >  rather see it dead.> > > > Maybe getting rid of Massoud wasn't 
 that
 >  >  greatest idea that the folio> >  committee's sudden wave of new 
 members
 >  >  anticipated.> > > > K> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----> > 
 From:
 >  >  Melinda Iley-Dohn > > To: NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent:
 >  >  Wednesday, February 6,
 >  >  >     2008 6:44:37 PM> > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re:
 >  >  [PacificaRadiowaves ] Finkelstein at UCLA Feb.> > 11 at 6 p.m. -
  Will
 >  >  Pacifica inteview him?> > > > Kevin,> > > > I was there for the 
 whole
 >  >  meeting. I will go no further because it was an ugly> > one. > 
 > I can
 >  >  assure you that I do not recall this happening. Give it a  rest. 
 It
 >  >  was> > about> > the parties present disagreeeing. It was not a 
 shining
 >  >  hour. I saw friends of> > mine> > yelling at each other and  
 didn't
 >  >  like it.> > > > Melinda> > > > Kevin White wrote:> > What about 
 giving
 >  >  everything in our little deomocracy into Ernesto's hands?> > 
 When will
 >  >  the community be impowered? Wasn't Massoud the main organizer 
 (and> >
 >  >  financier) of the folio and it wouldn't have seen the light if 
 left
 >  >  in> > management hands. We've been waiting since 2001 for its 
 return
 >  >  and management> > has done nothing. Massoud gets it going and 
 suddenly
 >  >  there's a power struggle> > to make sure the content doesn't 
 involve
 >  >  "the dis
 >  >  >     appeared" at the  station.> > > > Massoud told me that 
 Susan
 >  >  Young was happily reading it and then saw my name> > on one of 
 the
 >  >  stories and went red in the face. Were  you there to see that?> 
 > The
 >  >  meeting was later.> > > > Ernesto on the other hand is a toady 
 who's
 >  >  sold his once impressive value> > system in for a 40 k job.> > 
 > > The
 >  >  folio is no longer in any danger of having the wrong people 
 writing
 >  >  for> > it.> > > > K> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----> > 
 From:
 >  >  Melinda Iley-Dohn > > To: NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent:
 >  >  Wednesday, February 6, 2008 12:48:27 PM> > Subject: Re: 
 [NewPacifica]
 >  >  Re: [PacificaRadiowaves ] Finkelstein at UCLA Feb.> > 11 at 6 
 p.m. -
 >  >   Will Pacifica inteview him?> > > > > > Kevin,> > I was not 
 privy to
 >  >  the conversation with that you had with Massoud, perhaps> > you 
 could
 >  >   have misunderstood what he said at the time. I will not comment 
 on> >
 >  >  what I did not directly hear, but I can assure you that the 
 matter
 >  >  involved> > conc
 >  >  >     erned differences between parties who were in the room. 
 All
 >  >  concerned> > yelled quite loudly, so I feel certain that had 
 your name
 >  >  been a part been> > mentioned that it would have been easily
 >  >  discerned. It was quite a heated> > exchange. > > > > > > Kevin 
 White
 >  >  wrote:> > Melinda wrote: "I would also remind you that your 
 article
 >  >  had absuolutely> > nothing to do with changes> > made with  the 
 Folio.
 >  >  There was a lot involved but if your article was> > mentioned 
 at all
 >  >  it> > was not a part of the decision to change how it was 
 produced.
  >  >  That is a myth.> > I should> > know, I was there."> > > > Tell 
 that to
 >  >  poor Massoud. Also, in our little democracy just how much> > 
 authority
 >  >  do you think is fair to give Ernesto? The LSB puts all power 
 into> >
 >  >  the hands of merely two people.> > > > Also I've been around 
 Pacifica
 >  >  just as long as Drain Badly. In fact I don't> > ever recall 
 seeing him
 >  >  spending months of Friday night writing the by laws. No> > one
 >  questions h
 >  >  >     is poking people in the eye.> > > > K> > > > > > > > -----
 >  >  Original Message ---->  > From: Melinda Iley-Dohn > > To: 
 NewPacifica@
 >  >  yahoogroups. com; PacificaRadiowaves@ yahoogroups. com;> >
 >  >  fulcrumsofchange@ lists.pacificana .org;  newpacifica@ 
 yahoogroups.
 >  >  com;> > RealPacifica@ yahoogroups. com; freekpfk@yahoogroup 
 s.com;
 >  >  pacifica_now@> > yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 
 6, 2008
 >  >  10:47:02 AM> > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: 
 [PacificaRadiowaves ]
 >  >  Finkelstein at UCLA Feb.> > 11 at 6 p.m. - Will Pacifica 
 inteview
 >  >  him?> > > > > > Kevin,> > > > His writing demands to a 
 listserve is
 >  >  the most unlikely way for an item to> > appear on the air. These
 >  >  listserves have absolutely no influence on what> > appears in
 >  >  broadcasts. They are obsensibly created to give listeners  and> >
 >  >  participants a sounding board but they have never been used to
 >  >  establish on> > the air programming.> > > > If a person wants to
  >  >  participate in anything they can.It is generally a g
 >  >  >     ood> > idea if you want to be taken seriously (in any 
 setting)
 >  >  to not run around> > poking everybody in the eye with a stick. 
 I don't
 >  >  care who you are dealing> > with. > > > > I would also remind 
 you that
 >  >  your article had absuolutely nothing to do with> > changes> > 
 made
 >  >  with the Folio. There was a lot involved but if your article 
 was> >
 >  >  mentioned at all it> > was not a part of the decision to change 
 how it
 >  >  was produced. That is a myth.> > I should> > know, I was 
 there.> > > >
  >  >  Melinda> > > > Kevin White wrote:> > Melinda,> > > > You are 
 spreading
 >  >  the myth that all you need is board training and you'll be> >  
 allowed
 >  >  community access to our stations. This is just flatly untrue. 
 You
 >  >  have> > to flatter management and never utter a critical 
 sentence to
 >  >  ever get even> > close to a microphone. I personally wrote a 
 story for
 >  >  the KPFT folio and the> > editor was immediately replace by 
 Toady
 >  >  Ernesto Aguilar.> > > > You need to stop spreading the old 
 wife's ta
 >  >  >     le that Pacifica is a community> > network.> > > > That's 
 almost
 >  >  as old as the old weeze that KPFT wants "volunteers. " Nothing> 
 > can
 >  >  be further from the truth.> > > > Kevin White> >  > > > > > > > 
 > > > >
 >  >  > ----- Original Message ----> > From: Melinda Iley-Dohn > > To:
 >  >  PacificaRadiowaves@ yahoogroups.  com; fulcrumsofchange@
 >  >  lists.pacificana> > .org; newpacifica@ yahoogroups. com; 
 RealPacifica@
 >  >  yahoogroups. com;> > freekpfk@yahoogroup s.com; pacifica_now@
 >  >  yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2008 9:09:22 
 AM> >
 >  >  Subject: [NewPacifica] Re: [PacificaRadiowaves ] Finkelstein at 
 UCLA
 >  >  Feb. 11> > at 6 p.m. - Will Pacifica inteview him?> > > > > >
 >  >  PSSST.....Jim, what is this dictation to your "staff" ? This is
 >  >  COMMUNITY> > radio. Have you contacted your local Program or 
 News
 >  >  Director to see if they> > are going to do it already? Better
 >  >  yet....have  you ever TRAINED in how to> > interview? If you did 
 the
 >  >  interview you could increase the odds that it wo
 >  >  >     uld> > appear on the air if you asked  politely.> > > > Jim
 >  >  DeMaegt wrote:> > I suggest that KPFK cover this event and that 
 we ask
 >  >  Prof. Finkelstein to do> > an interview on KPFK and also that 
 the
 >  >  interview be carried by the rest of the> > Pacifica stations.> 
 > Would
 >  >  such an interview be possible? SI SE PUEDE!> > > > Jim "The 
 struggle
 >  >  in Palestine is crucial to the future of the planet." D.> > > > 
 > > In
 >  >  solidarity with Palestinian people, and to reflect on the> > 
 situation
 >  >  in Gaza Strip> > and Palestinian/ Israeli situation, Prof. 
 Norman
 >  >  Finkelstein will> > give a talk  at UCLA,> > Ackerman Hall, 
 Second
 >  >  Floor, at 6 pm on Feb. 11, 2008.> > > > For more information 
 contact
 >  >  Students for Justice in Palestine>  > sjp@ > > or SJP Prez Rachel
 >  >  Wahbe, rwahbe@ucla. edu> > mailto:rwahbe@ ucla.edu> > > > > > > 
 > > > 
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