Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] [NewPacifica] Re: The KPFT Folio's Third Edition?



Melinda; since Jews created the PR Industry makes understandable how you and 
tens of millions are absorb in reciting stories upon story that gives them a 
number of undeserved advantages especially with the pmia.  

This is an intelligence test: If the white European Jews who now claim to be 
(they did not when I was a boy acknowledge Jesus or The Bible) the people of 
the Movie The Ten Commandments and the Christan Bible let them answer a simple 
question "How Were The Pyramids Built"? Since they claim to have been forced to 
provide the Labor for the Project it should not be difficult. They can also 
share the Math, Technology and Methodology used to move Stones (some weighting 
tons) Cut and Fit them to hold the weight and shape that has lasted plus 10k 
years. Of interest to note that when the Pyramids where built the Sahara WAS 
NOT A DESERT! No bricks (made of anything) were ever used. No Mummies have ever 
been found in any Pyramid on earth; so no Pharaoh could have built one for 
his/her tomb. 

Most all Pharaoh's were buried in the valley of the Kings, where all the 
successful grave robbing has gone on.

The book is a worthwhile investment, so is his first work "The Ice Man's 
Inheritance in 1978", and another work by Dr. Frances Cress Welsing "The Isis 
Papers". These books blow the locked doors of the mind wide open.

...made in america,



Melinda Iley-Dohn <Iley_dohn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:                               
This is not a book I am  familiar with and I have found it hard to get any 
background on the research that went into it's publication. I believe that the 
argument can be made that many years before 11 AD, the Bible has recorded the 
Jews being held as slaves in Egypt, dating back to before the birth of Moses. 
In several of the Old Testiment books it speaks of the thousands of years that 
the Jews were held as slaves in Egypt, They didn't invent this horrible 
practice they were victims of it. 

Centuries before the Nazi extermination they were hardly a part of any real 
aristocracy. They were always a tightly knit group of people who were treated
in many cases in very disrespectful disdain. In the 15th century when 
Shakespeare wrote the Merchant of Venice even he made his villian a Jewish
Merchant named Shylock who demanded a "pound of Flesh" as being the 
payment if Antonio did not repay him for money he had loaned him because
earlier Antonio had  spit on him and spoken disrespectfully of his Jewish 
heritage.

There is a reason that among the people who were the earliest supporters of 
civil rights were Jewish. They knew what it was like to be downtrodden and 
handed
a bad lot. May I remind you that of the three victims of the "MIssissippi 
Burning"
crime,two of the victims Michael Schwerner, and Andrew Goodman were Jewish.
The other victim James E. Chaney, was black. The Klan hates Jewish people as 
much as they hate minorities. I wonder how much of this has to do with their 
participation in the Civil Rights effort.  

Emmett Abati Doe <abatidoe2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                          Terry/All, 

I have pasted the string back together to insure continuity, since it's been 
over three weeks ago that I put responding to this on hold.  

I had to find my reference source for I wanted all not to be distracted with he 
say, you say, back and forth.  

This is in response to Terry's miss-leading answer when he qualifies the time 
period that he asserts Jews had little to do with the Slave Trade selling 
whites to other Europeans and Muslims.  Terry wrote:   In the modern age, 
Europeans and non-Europeans traffic in Europeans and non-Europeans and sell 
them to Muslims and non-Muslims.  Few engaged in the modern  European or 
American slave traffic are Blacks or Jews, so most of the Europeans and 
Americans being sold specifically to Muslims are being sold by individuals with 
a nominally Christian or Muslim heritage.

I will be quoting verbatim from Page 194 and 196  from                        
Chosen People from the  Caucasus: Jewish Origins, Delusions, Deceptions and 
Historical Role in the  Slave Trade, Genocide and Cultural Colonization (ISBN: 
0883781476)         
Michael Anderson Bradley   

"... Aside from the fact that these Jewish Khazars of the 8th -11th century 
Russian steppes must have been the ancestors of modern Ashkenazim Jewry, they 
became important for another reason: they introduced the word and racial 
concept of slavery into the European world.  It was perhaps, the Khazar 
adoption of Judaism that gave them not only some necessary religious prestige 
in competition with their Christian and Islamic  neighbors and adversaries, but 
also, perhaps, gave them some reason for  discriminating between themselves as 
the "Chosen" and others, in surrounding forest and steppes, as "Gentiles" to be 
exploited.   
After conversion to Judaism, the Khazars exhibited a cohesive aggression that 
made them, not just the most prominent steppe people of the area, but the 
dominant people of the region.  At this time, the word slavery came into the 
Western World. Slave and its derivations come from the word Slav: and there can 
be little doubt that the Jewish Khazars suppilied captive Slavs in such 
quantities to both the Islamic and "Roman" worlds that this ethnographic 
designation became equated, forever after, with the concept of a "subhuman 
servant without rights or dignity."  

Page 196...
There is, or was, a real and abiding fear of the  "Jewish bogey-man that would 
steal Slave children" among the non-Jewish  peoples of Eastern Europe.  Is this 
fear simply "irrational" and a sick expression of pathological "anti-Semitism," 
or does it derive from real, and remembered, historical experience?  

Nuff said. 

On a related matter of some weeks ago, I was accused of being against white 
people and Jews by Robert Knight, followed by Nalini Lasiewicz

After an off list conversation, Nalini has made available the following 
retraction: "However, I certainly can and do apologize for how my comments have 
caused you any degree of pain. In all seriousness, I know and respect, and 
honor, that you have a lifelong history of being friends and colleagues with 
people of all colors and creeds and  that you are opposed to racism.   I 
wouldn't dream of taking  that away from you or suggesting otherwise.". 

Again, Thank you Nalini for being open to correct a mistake.

...made in america,
I'm Emmett Abati Doe


PS: Mr. Robert Knight,your next!






 

...made in america,
I'm Emmett Abati Doe


"Terry  Goodman" <tgoodman@xxxxxxxxxx>    Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:03:08 -0800 
Subject: [RealPacifica] Re: Re: Re: The KPFT Folio's Third Edit  
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                                On 8 Feb 2008, Emmett Abati Doe wrote:
 
 <snip>
 >also, I did not know that Muslims were involved in slave trade?  interesting.
 >
 >And, so did some Jews traffic in Europeans selling them to Muslims. 
 
 Centuries ago, in Africa, Arabs would purchase Blacks most frequently
 initially enslaved by other Blacks and sell them to Europeans or
 Americans who were mostly Christians for transport mostly to the
 Americas.  The Arabs engaged in the slave trade were probably mostly
 Muslims.
 
 In the modern age, Europeans and non-Europeans traffic in  Europeans
 and non-Europeans and sell them to Muslims and non-Muslims.  Few
 engaged in the modern European or American slave traffic are Blacks or
 Jews, so most of the Europeans and Americans being sold specifically
 to Muslims are being sold by individuals with a nominally Christian or
 Muslim  heritage.
 
 --Terry Goodman 
 



Emmett Abati Doe <abatidoe2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: MaryAnn Wrote:
I think he means like "born (conceived) in the USA".

What I mean MaryAnn is:
I like La Raza (The Race) advocate for My People, the people made in america"  
those descendant's (Spoils of War) of those prisoner's of Wars enslaved in the 
belly of the beast  of North america!

also, I did not know that Muslims were involved in slave trade?  interesting.

And, so did some Jews traffic in Europeans selling them to Muslims. 

...made in america


xtx1000@xxxxxxx wrote: hi Kevin,

I think he means like "born (conceived) in the USA".

also, I did not know that Muslims were involved in slave trade?  interesting.

MaryAnn...(of hispanic heritage but born in the USA like Abati)



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kevin White 
  To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; xtx1000@xxxxxxx ; Perrine Kelly ; 
fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Cc:  newpacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; friends_of_kpft@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;  
realpacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] The KPFT Folio's Third 
Edition?


  Hi Abati,

  My Irish ancestors  were the N word of Europe long before the Muslims started 
the African slave trade. 

  Can I be included as well?

  Kevin "Never a Made Man in Europe or America" White


  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Emmett Abati Doe >
  To: xtx1000@xxxxxxx; Perrine Kelly 
>; fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Cc: newpacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; friends_of_kpft@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 
realpacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Friday,  February 8, 2008 11:01:57 AM
  Subject: [NewPacifica] Re: [Fulcrumsofchange]  The KPFT Folio's Third Edition?

  Hi MaryAnn,

  Pacifica has become a free-for-all, that any would be power block 
has/could/can take over.

  Consider  WPFW in the control of Caribbeans solely disinterested in the 
Survival/ Welfare Reality Issues of "the people made in america", who 
management and staff pretend not only to be, but to represent. 

  FLASH: Pacifica's Broadcaster License was issued for and to serve as a 
microphone for "Minority" issues and voices with specific thresholds. Pacifica 
was never intended to serve white-artist, white-activist, white-writers and the 
anti-war military industrial, police complex!   

  Pacifica has changed hands any number of times but mostly buy the same white 
and Zionist middle-class masquerading as progressives. ..except at WBAI.  As 
for WPFW it's a case-study and an anomaly unto itself!  

  It is time for some  real change at Pacifica, starting with A GOOD 
HOUSE-CLEANING! 

  But, Just  Where Do We Start and How?

  ...made in america 


  xtx1000@msn. com wrote: 


    There should be a balance of management and listener imput into  the 
production of the folio. remember the original intent of the creation of 
Pacifica was to provide "all viewpoints". Giving one person full range to do 
and say what they want is not in line with that mission.

    peace, MaryAnn



    > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:40:54 -0700> From: pkelly@perrinekelly .com> To: 
fulcrumsofchange@ pacificana. org> Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] The KPFT 
Folio's Third Edition?> > You all are really smoothing over your edges, aren't 
you!> > > > From: Kevin White > > Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:44:30 -0800 (PST)> > 
To: NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com, fulcrumsofchange@ pacificana. org> > 
Subject: [Fulcrumsofchange] The KPFT Folio's  Third Edition?> > > > Of course, 
now that Ernesto is safely the  folio's new editor, have you noticed> > that 
suddenly there are no current issues? If management can't control the> > 
content of the publication it seems like they'd  rather see it dead.> > > > 
Maybe getting rid of Massoud wasn't that greatest idea that the folio> > 
committee's sudden wave of new members anticipated.> > > > K> > > > > > ----- 
Original Message ----> > From: Melinda Iley-Dohn > > To: NewPacifica@ 
yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 6,
    2008 6:44:37 PM> > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: [PacificaRadiowaves ] 
Finkelstein at UCLA Feb.> > 11 at 6 p.m. - Will Pacifica inteview him?> > > > 
Kevin,> > > > I was there for the whole meeting. I will go no further because 
it was an ugly> > one. > > I can assure you that I do not recall this 
happening. Give  it a rest. It was> > about> > the parties present 
disagreeeing.  It was not a shining hour. I saw friends of> > mine> > yelling 
at each other and didn't like it.> > > > Melinda> > > > Kevin White wrote:>  > 
What about giving everything in our little deomocracy into Ernesto's hands?> > 
When will the community be impowered? Wasn't Massoud the main organizer (and> > 
financier) of the folio and it wouldn't have seen the light if left in> > 
management hands. We've been waiting since 2001 for its return and management> 
> has done nothing. Massoud gets it going and suddenly there's a power 
struggle> > to make sure the content doesn't involve "the dis
    appeared" at the station.> > > > Massoud told me that Susan Young was 
happily reading it and then saw my name> > on one of the stories and went red 
in the face. Were you there to see that?> > The meeting was later.>  > > > 
Ernesto on the other hand is a toady who's sold his once  impressive value> > 
system in for a 40 k job.> > > > The folio is no longer in any danger of having 
the wrong people writing for> > it.> > > > K>  > > > > > ----- Original Message 
----> > From: Melinda Iley-Dohn > > To: NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: 
Wednesday, February 6, 2008 12:48:27 PM> > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: 
[PacificaRadiowaves ] Finkelstein at UCLA Feb.> > 11 at 6 p.m. - Will Pacifica 
inteview him?> > > > > > Kevin,> > I was not privy to the conversation with 
that you had with Massoud, perhaps> > you could have misunderstood what he said 
at the time. I will not comment on> > what I did not directly hear, but I can 
assure you that the matter involved> > conc
    erned differences between parties who were in the room. All concerned> > 
yelled quite  loudly, so I feel certain that had your name been a part been> >  
mentioned that it would have been easily discerned. It was quite a heated> > 
exchange. > > > > > > Kevin White wrote:> > Melinda wrote: "I would also remind 
 you that your article had absuolutely> > nothing to do with changes> > made 
with the Folio. There was a lot involved but if your article was> > mentioned 
at all it> > was not a part of the decision to change how it was produced. That 
is a myth.> > I should> > know, I was there."> > > > Tell that to poor Massoud. 
Also, in our little democracy just how much> > authority do you think is fair 
to give Ernesto? The LSB puts all power into> > the hands of merely two 
people.> > > > Also I've been around Pacifica just as long as Drain Badly. In 
fact I don't> > ever recall seeing him spending months of Friday night writing 
the by laws. No> > one  questions h
    is poking people in the eye.> > > >  K> > > > > > > > ----- Original 
Message ----> > From: Melinda Iley-Dohn > > To: NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com; 
PacificaRadiowaves@ yahoogroups. com;>  > fulcrumsofchange@ lists.pacificana 
.org; newpacifica@ yahoogroups. com;> > RealPacifica@ yahoogroups. com; 
freekpfk@yahoogroup s.com; pacifica_now@> > yahoogroups. com> > Sent: 
Wednesday, February 6, 2008 10:47:02 AM> > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: 
[PacificaRadiowaves ] Finkelstein at UCLA Feb.> > 11 at 6 p.m. - Will Pacifica 
inteview him?> > > > > > Kevin,> > > > His writing demands to a listserve is 
the most unlikely way for an item to> > appear on the air. These listserves 
have absolutely no influence on what> > appears in broadcasts. They are 
obsensibly created to give listeners and> > participants a sounding board  but 
they have never been used to establish on> > the air  programming.> > > > If a 
person wants to participate in anything they can.It is generally a g
    ood> > idea if you want to be taken seriously (in any setting) to not run  
around> > poking everybody in the eye with a stick. I don't care who you are 
dealing> > with. > > > > I would also remind you that your article had 
absuolutely nothing to do with> > changes> > made with the Folio. There was a 
lot involved but if your article was> > mentioned at all it> > was not a part 
of the decision to change how it was produced. That is a myth.> > I should> > 
know, I was there.> > > > Melinda> > > > Kevin White wrote:> > Melinda,> > > > 
You are spreading the myth that all you need is board training and you'll be> > 
allowed community access to our stations. This is just flatly untrue. You  
have> > to flatter management and never utter a critical  sentence to ever get 
even> > close to a microphone. I personally wrote a story for the KPFT folio 
and the> > editor was immediately replace by Toady Ernesto Aguilar.> > > > You  
need to stop spreading the old wife's ta
    le that Pacifica is a community> > network.> > > > That's almost as old as 
the old weeze that KPFT wants "volunteers. " Nothing> > can be further from the 
truth.> > > > Kevin White> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message 
----> > From: Melinda Iley-Dohn > > To: PacificaRadiowaves@ yahoogroups. com; 
fulcrumsofchange@ lists.pacificana> > .org; newpacifica@ yahoogroups. com; 
RealPacifica@ yahoogroups. com;> > freekpfk@yahoogroup s.com; pacifica_now@ 
yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2008 9:09:22 AM> > Subject:  
[NewPacifica] Re: [PacificaRadiowaves ] Finkelstein at UCLA Feb. 11> > at  6 
p.m. - Will Pacifica inteview him?> > > > > > PSSST.....Jim, what is this 
dictation to your "staff" ? This is COMMUNITY> > radio. Have you contacted your 
local  Program or News Director to see if they> > are going to do it already? 
Better yet....have you ever TRAINED in how to> > interview? If you did the 
interview you could increase the odds that it wo
    uld> > appear on the air if you asked politely.> > > > Jim DeMaegt wrote:> 
> I suggest that KPFK cover this event and that we ask Prof. Finkelstein to do> 
> an interview on KPFK and also that the interview be carried by the rest of 
the> > Pacifica stations.> > Would such an interview be possible? SI SE PUEDE!> 
> > > Jim "The struggle in Palestine is crucial to the future of the planet." 
D.> > > > > > In solidarity with Palestinian  people, and to reflect on the> > 
situation in Gaza Strip> > and  Palestinian/ Israeli situation, Prof. Norman 
Finkelstein will> > give a talk at UCLA,> > Ackerman Hall, Second Floor, at 6 
pm on Feb. 11, 2008.> > > > For more  information contact Students for Justice 
in Palestine> > sjp@xxxxxxxx > > or SJP Prez Rachel Wahbe, rwahbe@ucla. edu> > 
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