Re: [NewPacifica] Re: fighting on the lists



Pam,
Amazing what you folks do to justify censorship. I have learned so much from participation on these private boards.
 
The big difference between me and the rest of you is that while I'll support everyone's rights to participate in this New democratically, suppose to be, Pacifica - YOU folks - want to wipe out anyone who does not go along the Carol Spooner Progressive Faction partyline..... you don't play fair.... I've stood up against your mindset.
 
This NewPacifica board has done the job of eliminating anyone who disagrees. And Jim Demaget - he's one of you, playing his own nasty role giving you and others justification to censor......
 
And Pam - I'm really disappointed if what you say below is true because. again - I'm against all factions, sides and whatever.... but you folks have had the power, the communication, the organizing of a faction long before anyone other group decided to do so.....
 
For the record: Carol Spooner needs to be held accountable for the faction-mindset that supported her and she in turn supported..... Did she pass the bar - is she a lawyer? What happened to Carol? And Gregory what kind of lawyer is he - really? How come they became so powerful in creating this nightmear definition Pacifica now has. How come they have exited the scene? Oh that's right Gregory has reappeared to suggest a committee looking into all you-folks-have-done would be a "witch-hunt"... when it is plain to those of us documenting - you folks don't have a good track record when it comes to dialogue or actions, you folks don't play fair..... 
 
Yes - looks like elections are coming up and your board is clear of opposition now - you'll be free to spin 
 
Eileen J. Goodman

Pamela Somers <psomers@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Eileen Goodman wrote:

> Pam,

> I must say - I've come a long way from being frightened out of my wits
> to constantly being on the defensive, especially when I post critical
> of the Carol Spooner Progressive Faction..... and that's what this is
> all about -

Eileen, that's not what it's about.  I hadn't been following all
your posts, thus hadn't realized you weren't a Spooner fan.

> NOW, you wiping the NewPacifica list clean of anyone who would get in
> your way during the elections coming up....

No, my only agenda is keeping the list clean, hospitable and habitable to all
who wish to use it to discuss Pacifica.


> As if I could ever put words into Loraine's mouth.  Loraine is
> responsible for her own mindset and I have had the courage to stand up
> to her......

It appeared like you were feeding her the lines. Since I had not been
following your exchange, and came to it with no particular bias, seeing it
laid out all at once, I think I detected a pretty clear and consistent
pattern of goading Loraine into saying something, then sending it out to
other lists.


> As to your thoughts - no comment, just disappointed - but not surprized

> Eileen J. Goodman

As to your thoughts, I was both disappointed AND surprised.

Pamela Somers


Pamela Somers <psomers@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Eileen,

Here's my answer. Since you insist on doing it ! publicly, I'm responding here, and maybe that's the right way to go in this case. If you want to talk about hypocrisy, I think you're the one who should look in the mirror.  I read all the posts between you and Loraine dating back from when you first attacked her on March 7th, and in my opinion she was mainly responding to that and subsequent attacks, in which you goaded her into getting angry, almost as if you were setting her up, then twisting her words to the point of actually smearing her, and posting these exchanges to other lists that she was not on. What was your intent? I'm trying to understand, and the only thing I can figure was that Loraine's posts about Pacifica matters have been so on target recently that you wanted to distract her, or distract others, and maybe just make her go away. You should know that this kind of behavior is not acceptable on this list. And I hope Loraine will return, because her wisdom and understanding are very much needed here.

Pam

Eileen Goodman wrote:
Pam,
 
I'm really quite tired of the hypocracy you and others demonstrate on NewPacifica.
 
My comment to Loraine stands and is mild in comparison to what she has thrown at me. Are you going to suggest that Loraine Mirza's behavior on NewPacifica is excusable to you and others? I'd like an answer
 
Eileen J. Goodman
 


Pamela Somers <psomers@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Eileen,

I don't think it's right for you to be attacking Loraine on the lists, saying that she "terrorizes" you. I think you guys shou! ld definitely take this one offline. Maybe you already have.

Thanks,
Pam



Eileen Goodman wrote:
Look in the mirror Loraine..... As you have posted your own answers.....
 
I've been off the computer lately so - I'm thinking of deleting most of what's been said by you folks the last few days,,,,,
 
Eileen J. Goodman

"L. Mirza" <haq4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well eileen, if you won't "enlighten" those on this
list about the actual means I have used to allegedly
"terrorize" you, then I, as well as others on this
list have no way of knowing how I managed to terrorize
you. Pamela Some! rs certainly needs to know so she can
decide if I deserve being moderated or even banned.

Did I,

1)  curse at you?

2)  threaten to do you bodily harm?

3) demand that you leave t! his list?

4) physically attack you?

I mean, you made ! a serious charge, so at least back it
up with exactly what you deem as threatening you on my
part. I would certainly like to know too.






--- Eileen Goodman <backyardballerina@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> My comment stands and I comment no further unless
> you continue suggesting your spin, I'll remind you -
> I have not been frightened away
>   
>   Eileen J. Goodman
>
> "L. Mirza" <haq4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   Rein of ter! ror???? Pray tell eileen. Just what
> constitutes that serious allegation? I mean if I'm
> creating a rein of terror Pam should ban me from
> this
> list, as I would certainly ban a terrorist from a!
> list
> if I were the moderator?
>
> I suggest you lay off whatever you are taking that
> causes such hallucinations.
>
> --- Eileen Goodman <backyardballerina@xxxxxxxxx>! ;
> wrote:
>
> > Reality Loraine - your rein of terror is over
> >   
> >   Today, I'll be celebrating my one connection to
> > anything - I'm a 1/4 Irish.  As the song sings -
> > "death starvation or exile"  that was no pleasure
> > cruise and Loraine has been denied history - as us
> > all - while she continues to box folks into biased
> > race catagories - Truth of history, Loraine, is
> ugly
> > - as far as I'm concerned you do not speak for
> > anyone or any concept - as folks continue to tell
> me
> > - no one representing ! what she claims would act or
> > speak as you have.....
> >   
> >   Eileen J. Goodman
> >   I like potatos very much
> >
> > "L. Mirza" <haq4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >   Well one thing! about the backyardballerina,
> she's
> > great at racial profiling.
> >
> > --- Eileen Goodman <backyardballerina@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Jim,
> > >   
> > >   Loraine isn't Arab nor! does she come from that
> > > part of the world.  She is just like me - having
> > > many races in the blood.... Still - this type of
> > > thought can apply just to about anything - no
> ! > wonder
> > > folks are so full of hate
> > >   
> > >   I was taught not only to respect my neighbor
> but
> > > to love my neighbor as well. Since I don't
> > directly
> > > relate to any community - my life has mostly
> been
> > on
> > > the outside looking in.... must admit - I
> wanted,
> > >! ; once, to find "My Community" and I thought for a
> > > brief moment it was Pacifica, in which,
> different
> > > folks gather together to stand with each other -
> > > respecting our differences for we had a
> > Mission.....
> > >  &nb! sp;
> > >   My style of writing is what it is and my
> > thoughts
> > > went to Ostriches and the cartoons suggesting
> the
> > > Ostrich wants to hide - not face reality.! ..... I
> > > have found courage to be me in this arena - come
> > > what may
> > >   
> > >   Eileen J. Goodman
> > >
> > > Jim DeMaegt <jdemaegt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >               Eileen wrote: "So put your head in
> > the
> > > sand, w! hile fooling yourself about reality -
> Look
> > > into the mirror"
> > >   -------------------------
> > >       Ough Oh Eileen wrote the word "san! d" and
> > > applied it to Loraine. Arabs come from an area
> of
> > th
> > > world that has lots of sand. Arabs are often
> > > Muslims. Loraine is a Muslim. Thus Eileen is
> bein! g
> > > racist. Please forward this information to the
> new
> > > PNB committee on racism.
> > >   
> > >       Spin = +++ - too are you but of so= far/J
> > >   
> > >       (Am I getting the New Pacifica "style" of
> > > posts down pat.-  I think that I am)
> > >     ----- Original Message -----
>! ; > >   From: Eileen Goodman
> > >   To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
> > > freekpfk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
> > > kpfklsb_comments@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >&nb! sp;  Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:46 AM
> > >   Subject: [kpfklsb_comments] Re: [NewPacifica]
> :
> > > SUPPORT LISA DAVIS
> > >  
> > >
> > >   Loraine,
> > >   
> > >   So put your head in the sand, while fooling
> > > yourself about reality - Look into the mirror
> > >   
> > >   Each and every one of us is responsible for
> our
> > > own actions and it matters what we do.
> > >   
> > >   No I do not want war, and - I'll stand against
> > > those who do and tho! se who think they are better
> > > than others.....
> > >   
> > >   Peace on planet Earth needs to see the day
> > >   Eileen J. Goodman
>! ; > >
> > > "L. Mirza" <haq4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >   Talk to yourselves from now on. You and fred
> are
> > > both
> > > off topic since nothing either of you have
> posted
> > > has
> > > anything to do with Pacifica. Personal attacks
> are
> > a
> > > waste of everyone's time.
> > >
> > > --- Eileen Goodman <backyardballerina@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > >
>! ; > > > Loraine,
> > > >   
> > > >   You need to look into the mirror and you'll
> be
> > > > needing to provide some! evidence for your
> > > > acquisitions because I intend to suggest that
> > > folks
> > > > who act in the manner as you have - have no
> > place
> > > in
> > > > Pacifica.
> > > >   
> > > >   I'm under no opinion that Pacifica can help
> me
> > -
> > > > as I have often felt like an undocumented
> > > > participant with no rights and Farah's threat
> > > > included no resolution between us and so that
> > > > goes..... Still
> > > >   
> > > >   If procedures can be in place to make folks
> > > > welco! med into Pacifica not fearing or being
> > afraid
> > > > my attempts to heal my pain will be the reward
> I
> > > > have for speaking out on these private
>! > boards.....
> > > >   
> >! > >   Eileen J. Goodman
> > > >
> > > > "L. Mirza" <haq4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >   eileen,
> > > > Now just who belongs to this alleged "free
> land
> > of
> > > > terror" group? Just how is this alleged
> > > "nationally
> > > > organized" group terrorized folks? Please give
>
> > > > specifics so we can all duck and cover to
> > protect
> > > > ourselves from these "terrorists" only you
> seem
> > to
> > > > identify.  Oh, is Carol Spooner and her Spouse
> > the
> > > > leaders of the terrorists? Please give the
> exact
> > > WMD
> > > > used by these terrorists and their leaders?
> Are
> > > they> > > > like the old boogymen of terror, the alleged
> > > secret
> > > > commie cells or secret al-qaida cells, just
> > > waiting
> > > > underground for the right time to send their
> > rein
> > > of
> > > > terror on those who oppose them at Pacifica?
> > > >
> > > > --- Eileen Goodman
> <backyardballerina@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Loraine,
> > > > >   
> > &g! t; > >   I applaude the elected PNB finally doing
> > > > > something. Interesting how Gregory
> Wonderwheel
> > > > steps
> > > > > in NOW to do the same old same old - try to
> > > paint
> >! ; > > a
> > > > > picture of how horrible it would be to exam> > how
> > > > > folks have behaved in  their actions and
> > words.
> > > > > Since those folks, aligned Nationally have
> had
> > a
> > > > > free rein of terror towards anyone who
> opposes
> > > or
> > > > > does not go along with the Carol Spooner
> > > > Progressive
> > > > > Faction!
> > > > >   
> > > > >   It is not OK to terrorize people - period,
> > let
> >! > > the
> > > > > Pacifica folks know what went down!
> > > > >   
> > > > >   It is not OK to ruin someone reputation,
> let
> > > the
> > > > > Pacifica folks kno! w that disagreemments,
> > > > especially
> > > > > politically! , IS A FACT OF LIFE - and will
> > always
> > > > be
> > > > > a part of Pacifica - For folks who wish to
> be
> > > > > involved it is absolutely essential they be
> > > > > transparent,  to have the courage to face
> > their
> > > > > advarsary in the eye, dialog and come to an
> > > > > agreement - even if it is to agree to
> disagree
> > -
> > > > > folks in Pacifica - need to have courage and
> > > > > determinati! on to stand for their actions and
> > > > > thoughts - when challenged.
> > > > >   
> > > > >   Program Councils - programmers who
> complain
> > > > about
> > > > > Paci! fica matters on the air - need to give a
> > > > > response time for rebuttal - ! I'm convinced
> > this
> > > is
> > > > > absolutely necessary!
> > > > >   
> > > > >   Again - Bless the sensability of the
> elected
> > > PNA
> > > > > to finally do something and tell those folks
> -
> > > the
> > > > > rein of terror is OVER!
> > > > >   
> > > > >   Eileen J. Goodman
> > > > >
> > > > > "L. Mirza" <haq4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >   You could let it go, but then try sitting
> on
> > a
> > > > > nail
> > > > > and you will know what a ! thorn in the
> backside
> > > you
> > > > > are. Have fun sending my words of wisdom to
> > your
> > > > > FBI,
> > > > > CIA, PUC and JustUs coalition friends or who
> > > ever
> > > > > else
> > > > > you call friends.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Eileen Goodman
> > <backyardballerina@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Loraine,
> > > > > >   
> > > > > >   Sorry - I know this will upset you but,
> > > again
> > > > -
> > > > > I
> > > > > > don't know how to comment on your post and
> > > will
> > > > ! > > forward to the other lists your comments
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "L. Mirza" <haq4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >   Nope, your post is an example! of true
> > white
> > > > > > racism.
> > > > > > Keep up the good work, eleen, exposing
> your
> > > > > > insecurity
> > > > > > about being around those with a dip of the
> > tar
> > > > > brush
> > > > > > who don't ! fit your narrow image and
> > > experience.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Eileen Goodman
> > > <backyardballerina@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > wrote:
> &! gt; > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim,
> > > > > > >   I want to thank you for pointing out
> > what
> > > > > should
> > > > > > > appear obvious.  I do understand Ms.
> > Davis's
> > > > > > > complaint because this keeps happening
> and
> > > how
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > > one defend one's self with blanket
> > > statements
> > > > > > > constantly spoken or posted by the
> > > list-prog,
>! > > > > > pircr,
> > > > > > > known by me - now, as the Carol Spooner
> > > > > > progressive
> > > > > > > faction ..... Good for Lisa in speaking
> > out.
> > > > > > >   
> > > &! gt; > > >   I hope Lisa will try and hold an olive
> > > > branch
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > Patty - but - as Fred points out these
> > folks
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > > dialog - unless amongst themselves....
> > > > > &! gt; >   
> > > > > > >   Now, with that said - maybe Patty made
> > > some
> > > > > > > off-the-cuff remarks, maybe Lisa had
> > enough
> > > -
> > > > > > still
> > > > > > > - we can go round and round the
> > > merry-go-round
> > > > -
> > > > > > > AGAIN... or, start to ask - why folks
> > > continue
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > character assault with little ! or nothing
> > at
> > > > all
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > an opinion as to why they feel this
> > way.....
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >   You all should know, of  how I have
> > tried
> > > to!
> > > > > > > support Loraine. Loraine and I disagree
> on
> > > > > > Pacifica
> > > > > > > politics.  This does not mean I entirely
> > > > support
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > JUC. I only marvel at what they've had
> to
> > > put
> > > > up
> > > > > > > with..... still
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >   Loraine's posting to me is a great
&g! t; > example
> > > > of
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > Lisa Davis is saying about this group of
> > > > > > people.....
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >   BTW: I won't be signing a letter of
> > > support
! > > > > > for
> > > > > > > Lisa, even though I see her need to
> speak
> > > out
> > > > > > > because I just don't..... I'd rather see
> > > Lisa
> > > >! > and
> > > > > > > Patty get past their differences and
> > > recognise
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > they both belong in Pacifica and can use
> > > their
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > energy in much better way! s - being
> > involved
> > > > > > players,
> > > > > > > that is....
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >   Eileen J. Goodman
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >  
> > > > ! > > >
> > > > > > > Jim DeMaegt <jdemaegt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >     ! ; Felashi Ofan wrote:  "I used the
> term
> > > > > > > bolshevik, not communist. If you
> > > > > > > don't understand the
> > > > > > > difference between those words, get a
> > > library
> > > > > card
> > > > > > >! ; and start to read
> > > > > > > books."
> > > > > > > --------------------
> > > > > > >      It is just this type of insults and
> > ad
> > > > > > hominem
> > > > > > > attacks  that is being
> > > > > > > protested against by Lisa Davis. And yet
> > for
> >! ; > > > some
> > > > > > > reason people say that
> > > > > > > Lisa Davis is wrong to protest.
> > > > ! > > >     Any opposition to some of the
> > "factions"
> > > > > > result
> > > > > > > in this type of insults
> > > > > > > and ad hominem attacks. That is not
> > > democracy
> > > > > and
> > > > &! gt; > > the "factions" and people
> > > > > > > who make such attacks must be throw out
> of
> > > > their
> > > > > > > little power clicks at
> > > > > > > Pacifica.
> > > > > > >     Please suppport Lisa Davis and
> support
> > > her
> > > > > > > effort to stop this type of
> > > > > > > faction dictatorship at Pacifica.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    ! ; Jim D.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Felashi Ofan"
> > <felashiofan@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: <NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 4:47 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [NewPacifica] Re: SUPPORT LISA
> > > DAVIS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> "Jim
> > > > > > DeMaegt"
> > > > > > > <jdemaegt@...>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >! > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>     Ah yes a well reasoned
> > anti-Communist
> > > > > post.
> > > > > > > >
> > > &! gt; > > > > I used the term bolshevik, not
> > communist.
> > > If
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > don't understand the
> > > > > > > > difference between those words, get a
> > > > library
> > > > > > card
> > > > > > > and start to read
> > > > > > > > books.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> That is the new Pacifica
> > > > > > > >> Missi! on all right.
> > > > > > > >> If you have something to say you
> might
> > > try
>! > > > > > using
> > > > > > > some logic and
> > > > > > > >> reason to explain it rather than just
> > > using
> > > > > > > insults and threats.
> > > > > > > >>     I can see why Lisa Davis is
> > > > complaining.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You see a threat somewhere in what I
> > > wrote?
> > > > > > (Maybe
> > > > > > > brush up on your
> > > > > > > > reading comprehension skills before
> > going
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > library.)
> > > > >! > > >
> > > > > > > > You want "logic and reason"? OK, at
> the
> > > risk
>! > > > > of
> > > > > > > casting pearls before
> > > > > > > > swine, here you go:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The ! logical response to this has been
> > laid
> > > > out
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > others. And that
> > > > > > > > shouldn't even have been necessary.
> > Anyone
> > > > who
> > > > > > > takes the time to
> > > > > > > > investigate the matter dispassionately
> > > > cannot
> > > > > > help
> > > > > > > but realize that
> > > > > > > > it's race-baiting! of the most obvious
> > > sort.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The only ! evidence Davis has proffered
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > > remarks were racist is
> > > > > > > > that Heffley is white and she is
> black.
> >! ; > > > > Apparently
> > > > > > > that is now
> > > > > > > > sufficient -- to PC, leftist retards
> --
> > to
> > > > > make
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > personal insult a
> > > > > > > > racist insult.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Having accepted that idiocy, you now
> > have
> > > to
> > > > > > > accept the inferences it
> > >! > > > > > leads to: ANY insult from a white
> person
> > > to
> > > > a
> > > > &g! t; > > "person of color" is
> > > > > > > > prima facie racism. And the burden of
> > > > > > (impossible)
> > > > > > > proof now falls on
> >! ; > > > > > > the white person to prove they weren't
> > > being
> > > > > > > racist.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Racism is no longer something
> objective,
> > > > which
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > be identified by an
> > > > > > > > onlooker. And it isn't something
> > > subjective,
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the mind of the
> > > &! gt; > > > > (alleged) racist. It is now to be
> found
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > mind! of the (alleged)
> > > > > > > > victim!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If we want to decide if a remark is
> > > racist,
> &g! t; > > we
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > longer examine the
> > > > > > > > remark itself, or the motivation of
> the
> > > > > speaker,
> > > > > > > we now examine the
> > > > > > > > opinion of the recipient! (And of
> course
> > > > > there's
> > > > > > > no way to tell if
> > > > > > > > that opinion is genuine or contrived.)
> > > > > > > >
! > > > > > > > > So in order to tell whether Patty said
> > > > > something
> > > > > > > racist, ! we don't
> > > > > > > > examine what she said, or even what
> she
> > > > meant.
> > > > > > We
> > > > > > > instead rely only on> > > > > > > > what Lisa Davis says Patty meant. This
> > > would
> > > > > be
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > disastrous return to
> > > > > > > > pre-logical thinking even if Davis
> were
> > 1)
> > > a
> > > > > > > competent intellect, and
> > > > > > > > 2) honest. But considering Davis is
> > > neither,
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > who! le notion is so
> > > > > > > > much horseshit.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yet d! espite the fact that it's
> > > intellectual
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > ethical horseshit, YOU
> > > > > > > > bought it hook, line, and sinker. And
> > then
> > > > you
> > > > > > > wonder why I didn't see
> > > > > > > > the need to waste "logic and reason"
> on
> > > you
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > previous post!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nonetheless, it is fun to see you of
> all
> > > > > people
> > > > > > > complaining about
> > > > > > >! > rudeness and insult in a post to this
> > > list.
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > for the amusement.> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Felashi Ofan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >! > > >>
> > > > > > > >>     Jim D.
> > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >> From: "Felashi Ofan"
> <felashiofan@...>
> > > > > > > >> To: <NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > >> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 12:23
> PM
> &! gt; > > > > > >> Subject: [NewPacifica] Re: SUPPORT
> LISA
> > > > DAVIS
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > Lisa Davis is the Tawana Brawley of
> > > WBAI.
> > > > > > Shove
> > > > >! ; > > that -- along with
> > > > > > > >> > your letter -- up your ignorant,
> > > > bolshevik
> > > > > > ass,
> > > > > > > you pathetic bore.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > --- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > > "Jim
> > > > > > > DeMaegt" <jdemaegt@>
&! gt; > > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>     I support the letter writing
> > > > campaign
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > support of Lisa
> > > > > > > > Davis.> > > > > > > >> > Please write letters and e-mail
> posts
> > > in
> > > > > > > support of her.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>     Jim D.
> > > > > > > >> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >> >>   From: Kevin White
> > > > > > > >> >>   To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >> >>   Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006
> 9:22
> > PM
> > > > > > > >> >>   Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] FWD:
> > > > SUPPORT
> > > > > > LISA
> >! ; > > > > > DAVIS
> > > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>   This is stupid.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>   Jim Murray <jimmurra@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >>     Note to rocklandfriendsofwbai
> > list
> > > > > > > subscriber! s: the following
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > >> > an
> > > > > > > >> >>     announcement of a letter
> writing
> > > > > > campaign.
> > > > > > > If you wish to
> > > > > > > >> > comment on
> > > > ! > > > >> >>     it, pro or can, rather than
> > &! gt; clogging
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > list, please sign
> > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > >> > for, and
> > > > > > > >> >>     send your comments to our
> > > discussion
> > > > > > > listserv,
> > > > > > > >> >>  &nb! sp;  rocklandfriendsofwbaiforum.
> > Enter
> > > a
> > > > > > search
> > > > > > > for the name at
> > > > > > > >> >>     http://groups.yahoo.com/.
> Thank
> > > you.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > >! ; > > > > >> >>     FYI Lisa Davis is an active
>! > member
> > > > of
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > of the most dynamic
> > > > > > > >> > African
> > > > > > > >> >>     American-led organizations in
> > the
> > > > > > > Tri-State area, the
> > > > > > > > People's
> > > > > > > ! >> >>     Organization for Progress.
> > Cornell
> > > > > West,
> > > > > > > who gets over 50
> > > > > > > >> > requests for
> > > > > > > >> >>     speaking engagements per day,
> > > speaks
> > > > > to
> > >! ; > > > > POP at no charge. He
> > > > > > > > and
> &! gt; > > > > > >> > other
> > > > > > > >> >>     community leaders belong to
> this
> > > > great
> > > > > > > group. Check out POP
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > >> >>     http://www.njpop.org/
> > > >! ; > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>     Dear WBAI Listeners.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>     One of our most dedicated,
> > > outspoken
> > > > > > WBAI
> > > > > > > Local Station Board
&! gt; > > > > > > >> > members,
> > > > > > > >> >>     LIsa Davis, needs our help.
> > Lisa
> > > > was
> > > > > > > shamefully insulted by
> > > > > > > >> > another
> > > > > > > >> >>     board member, Patti Heffley,
> in
> > a
> > > > > manner
> > > > > > > most people of color> > > > > > > >> > would
> > > > > > > >> >>     instantly recognize as racist.
> > > > > Heffley,
> > > > > > > who is white, said
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >> > Davis
> > > > > > > >> >>     wanted to be a member of
> > > Pacifica's
> > > > > ! > > National Board (PNB) to
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > >> > free
> > > > > > > >> >>     food and hotel lodging at PNB
> > > > > meetings.
> > > > > > > Lisa is African
> > > > > > > >> > American.
> > > > > > > >> >>
&g! t; > > > > > > >> >>     Imagine if this exchange had
> > > > happened
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > the floor of the U.
> > > > > > > > S.
> > > > > > > >> >>     Congress, if a white Senator
> > said
> &g! t; > > that
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > Black Senator was
> > > > ! > > > >> > working for
> > > > > > > >> >>     free food. Unthinkable in
> 2006,
> > > > isn't
> > > > > > it?
> > > > > > > However, Heffley's
> > > > > > > >> > supporters
> > > > > > > >> >>     at WBAI are boldly mocking!
> Lisa
> > > > Davis.
> > > > > > > Why? Because they can
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > >> > away
> > > > > > > >> >>     with it. Rather than simply
> > > getting
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > ap! ology she deserves
> > > > > > > >> > from
> > > > > > > >> >>     Heffley, Lisa Davis has been
> put
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > defensive. It is a
> > > > > > > >> > classic case
> > > > > > > >> >>     of blame the victim. It is
> well
> > > > known
> > > > > > that
> > > >! > > > racism in the
> > > > > > > > North
> > > > > > > >> > does not
> > > > > > > >> >>     take the overt form that it
> > takes
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > South. Despite the
> > > > > > > &g! t; fact
> > > > > > > >> > that
> > > > > > > >> >>     Heffley did not use the "n"
> > word,
> > > > her
> > > > > > > meaning was appallingly
> > > > > > > >> > clear.
> > > > > > > >> >>     Lisa Davis, a tireless worker
> > and
> > > a
> > > > > > highly
> > > > > > > regard! ed member of
> > > > > > > >> > the
> > > > > > > >> >>     dynamic People's Organization
> > for
> > > > > > Progress
> > > > > > > in New Jersey,
> > > > > > > >> > deserves
> > > > > > > >> >>     better than this.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > ! > > > >> >>     Please, by tomorrow night,
> send
> > > > emails
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > support to board@
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>     Tell them that there is no
> place
> > > for
> > > > > > > racist verb! al assaults
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >> > board
> > > > > > > >> >>     members who work long hours to
> > > serve
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > community with no
> > > > > > > >> >>     compensation.  And that white
> > > people
> > > > > who
> > > &g! t; > > > imply that people of
> > > > > > > >> > color run
> > > > > > > >> >>     for the board to get free
> meals
> > > and
> > > > > > hotel
> > > > > > > rooms should not be
> > > > > > > >> >>     representing any of us.
> &g! t; > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>     Thank you,
> > > > > > > >> >>     Sheila Hamanaka
> > > > > > > >> >>     Rockland Friends of WBAI
> > > > > > > >> >>     Member, Justice and Unity
> > Campaign
> > > > of
> > > > > > WBAI
> >! > > > > > >> >>     Member, Rockland Coalition for
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> > > > > Asia
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> > > > > > > > WBAI
> >! ; > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>
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> > Director
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> > Published by Crescent International Newspapers,
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> > this remarkable account of the 'Stranded
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> > Bangladesh since 1972." (Zafar Bangash, Director
> of
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> Published by Crescent International Newspapers, Inc.
> 300 Steelcase Road West, Unit 8, Markham, Ontario,
> Canada L3R 2W2
> "The story of a long-suffe! ring people told with
> compassion and sensitivity. All who care for justice
> must read this book. Loraine Mirza, an American
&g! t; Muslim print and broadcast journalist, has written
> this remarkable account of the 'Stranded
> Pakistanis,' trapped in internment camps in
> Bangladesh since 1972." (Zafar Bangash, Director of
> Institute of Contemporary Islamic Thought.)
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>          info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>          crescent@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>          crescent.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Read "Internment Camps of Bangladesh," by Loraine Mirza
Published by Crescent International Newspapers, Inc.
300 Steelcase Road West, Unit 8, Markham, Ontario, Canada L3R 2W2
"The story of a long-suffering people told with compassion! and sensitivity. All who care for justice must read this book. Loraine Mirza, an American Muslim print and broadcast journalist, has written this remarkable account o! f the 'Stranded Pakistanis,' trapped in internment camps in Bangladesh since 1972." (Zafar Bangash, Director of Institute of Contemporary Islamic Thought.)
For! more information:
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         info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
         crescent@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Visit web sites:  www.statelesspeopleinbangladesh.net
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