Title: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Pacifica : "A government for the mainly White middle class and the tokens they chose from among the Black and Latino comunities
Ask Jim. He's the one who's stuck there. Avis
on 3/4/06 1:07 PM, Richard at rsierra7@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Uncomprehensing fantasies aside, what the hell does the Russian Rev have to do with Jim or anyones else on this board? /R
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From: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kevin White
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Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Pacifica : "A government for the mainly White middle class and the tokens they chose from among the Black and Latino comunities
The Trotskyites were always on the money. That ice pick robbed us of a revolution. Dictatorship of the proletariat my ass. Re: Make me Tsar and things will be a hole lot better for me.
Trotski was a damn hot dresser too. Black leather before it meant somethin'.
K
Avis Worthington <avisworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jim seems stuck in the times of the Russian Revolution when middle class
meant CEO types or owners of Corporate Conglomerates. Today's middle class,
rapidly being reduced, includes white collar workers like my overworked
kids. A Trotskyist acquaintance, when I asked who were today's
proletarians, answered, "Anyone who would have trouble paying the rent if
he/she lost his/her job." Perhaps the Trotskyists of today are more with it
in post industrial America than old Marxist-Leninists like Jim.
Avis
on 3/3/06 9:39 AM, Terry Goodman at tiji@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Jim DeMaegt wrote:
>
>> True. But unfortunately most Pacifica "activists" have no interests
>> beyond their class (which is middle class which most definitely leaves out
>> the cleaning woman of the country) since as Terry G. writes "Some Pacifica
>> stations have regular labor shows, but usually just one".
>> Apparently the Pacifica attitude is "Let the working class get their own
>> radio network - Pacifica belongs to the mainly
>> White middle class and we are going to keep it."
>
> What's the distinction between "middle class" and "working class" in
> your definitions, Jim? Why do you seem to avoid answering? Don't you
> want to educate your readers about class issues?
>
> --Terry Goodman, KPFK Delegate
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