From: Jonathan Markowitz <democracywhere@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Frank Le Fever <fflefever@xxxxxxxxx>, cmcb007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx Cc: fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, tiji@xxxxxxxx, newpacifica@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] [PNB_Elections:419] Re: Recount Ruling at KPFK Date: Jun 29, 2008 12:36 PM For fuck's sake, when are you people going to be honest about the motives of Pacifica national? Billing back to the station for Pacifica's malfeasance in election fraud and 'incompetence' is part of the punishment/control/political modification operations that are at the root of the same paradigm that seeks to narrow and channel programming content to serve essentially the Democratic Party/national security state war on "terror"/US military hegemony uber alles/white surpremacy. Hello? These discussions should be CC:'d to newpacifica. Why is that list (which has 651 suscribers) being ignored? These people should be engaged in these discussions. JM -----Original Message----- >From: Frank Le Fever <fflefever@xxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Jun 29, 2008 12:40 AM >To: cmcb007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx, janjerry2@xxxxxxxxx, >pnb_elections@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, LasiewiczN@xxxxxxx >Cc: PacificaRadiowaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, tgoodman4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, >fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, tiji@xxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] [PNB_Elections:419] Re: Recount Ruling at >KPFK > >Carolyn made an excellent point. I hope it will not be obscured by a >flurry of side-tracking and well-intentioned but unproductive responses to > Nalini's provocation. > >Please, let us focus on problems which are capable of resolution in a >matter of weeks or months, not on differences not likely to be reconciled >in our lifetimes. > >Carolyn said: "The problems created by actions (or inactions) of elections >supervisors local and national, often with the approval of foundation >counsel, are expensive, and I believe that stations should resist >having the cost of these legal expenses billed back to the station in >question. The elections supervisors local and national report to the >ED, not to the station managers or boards. Why should stations have >to pay for the mistakes made beyond their control?" > >This goes to the heart of fiscal and legal irresponsibility at the very top > of Pacifica, the consequences of which those at the top can escape by >passing the buck (or the bill for the buck) to those who were the victims >and not the perpetrators. > >--Frank LeFever > > > >--- On Sun, 6/29/08, LasiewiczN@xxxxxxx <LasiewiczN@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> From: LasiewiczN@xxxxxxx <LasiewiczN@xxxxxxx> >> Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] [PNB_Elections:419] Re: Recount Ruling at KPFK >> To: cmcb007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx, janjerry2@xxxxxxxxx, pnb_elections@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Cc: PacificaRadiowaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, tgoodman4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, >> fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, tiji@xxxxxxxx >> Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 2:05 AM >> In a message dated 6/28/2008 10:58:04 P.M. Pacific Daylight >> Time, >> cmcb007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: >> >> The problems created by actions (or inactions) of >> elections >> supervisors local and national, often with the approval of >> foundation >> counsel, are expensive, and I believe that stations should >> resist >> having the cost of these legal expenses billed back to the >> station in >> question. >> >> >> Can anyone on any of these lists provide me with one single >> reason why these >> elections are helpful to Pacifica, in any way at all? >> >> Nalini > >_______________________________________________ >Fulcrumsofchange mailing list >Fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >http://lists.pacificana.org/listinfo.cgi/fulcrumsofchange-pacificana.org