KEVIN: "Frank, I'm not the enemy. I'm here brainstorming ideas to help save this network." The kinds of "brainstorming" I've usually seen from you is more storm than brain. Or, to adopt a different metaphore, more like an incandescent light than a fluorescent light: a relatively large amount of heat for the relatively small amount of light provided. KEVIN" "You keep insisting on making this personal. I'm not going to play that game with you. This is about Pacifica." Oh, OK, so you'd rather play that game with Wendy, eh? I'm sure she's thrilled. If confronting an author with his message is "personal", mea culpa; but the personal attacks in which you make some PNB director the scapegoat for all of Pacifica's ills is a "personal" affront which I will attack whenever I see it. KEVIN: "... please put aside for a moment you distaste for people who are not fellow neurologists and see that we're pretty much in agreement..." So far as I know, Terry Goodman is not a neurologist, nor is Wendy, nor are a few others I respect. For that matter, neither am I, and I hope you can forgive the "personal" correction of your (repeated?) mis-characterization of my specialty, a mis-characterization which is typical of your repeated contempt for mere "detail" in your "brainstorming" and "constructive criticism". I answer better to "neuroscientist" than to "neurologist", and ironically I usually have much disagreement with a fellow member of the Society for Neuroscience, viz. Dave Adelson. --Frank LeFever ======================================================= --- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@...> wrote: > > Well, if FRANK LEFEVER "knew anything" he note that I already made basically the statement about the Program Director. Frank, please put aside for a moment you distaste for people who are not fellow neurologists and see that we're pretty much in agreement. > > 1. Everyone who has a job at Pacifica that has no function should be fired. That would put a stop to Pacifica cronyism. > > 2. I never said anything about eliminating the public affairs director. I do think the artistic director is an unnecessary luxury when the station is in danger of closing. Apparently, she's friends with Wendy who jumped in to protect her friend's job: which is a good example of Pacifica cronyism itself. > > Frank, I'm not the enemy. I'm here brainstorming ideas to help save this network. > > You keep insisting on making this personal. I'm not going to play that game with you. This is about Pacifica. > > Kevin White > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Frank LeFever <fflefever@...> > To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 12:48:40 PM > Subject: [NewPacifica] Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] [grc] [Fwd: Pacifica in grave financial crisis - Part 1] > > > Well, if KEVIN "knew anything", he'd know better than to take > everything he sees on the http://WBAI. org website too seriously. > > As for what Kathy actually does, it's my impression is (especially at > critical moments) she does much of what the Program Director should be > doing. That's in addition to her specified job. > > Indeed, some of us have suggested that the PD slot should be > eliminated and the PD's work be done by a consortium of Dept. heads. > If nothing else, this might ensure that the work WOULD be done; > currently, one cannot count on that. > > --Frank LeFever > > ============ ========= ========= ==== > --- In NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com, Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@ ...> wrote: > > > > From the WBAI Website: > > > > > > Programming > > Staff > > Program Director: Bernard White > > Public Affairs > > Director: Kathy Davis > > Arts Director: Janet Coleman > > Producer, Wakeup Call: Sharan Harper > > Host/Producer, Wakeup Call (Mon.-Thurs. ): Deepa > > Fernandes > > Host/Producer, Wakeup Call (Fri.): Mario Murillo > > Host/Producer, TalkBack: Hugh Hamilton > > Host/Producer, TalkBack (Fri.): Earl Caldwell > > It says "Arts Director" instead of "Artistic Director." I'm sorry > about the discrepancy. > > > > It makes a great deal of difference apparently. > > > > My opinion has been, classically in the Pacifica-sense, rendered > invalid. What does an "arts director" do in a failing business? Do you > think this might just be a little bit of fat? Is it worth cutting back > FSRN for this? > > > > Kevin White > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@ ...> > > To: Wendy Schroell <wendy@> > > Cc: NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com; fulcrumsofchange@ ...; > PacificaRadiowaves@ yahoogroups. com > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:53:40 PM > > Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] [grc] [Fwd: Pacifica in grave > financial crisis - Part 1] > > > > > > "WBAI doesn't have a position called Artistic Director, it's > Director of the Arts Department.. ." > > > > > > Wendy, > > > > It's you that doesn't know what you're talking about. What is the > difference?. The same words are re-arranged on the page!!! But the > words mean the same thing. > > > > You are just protecting your friend. This cronyism is what killing > the network. If this position were removed, nothing would change. The > job has no function when it comes to the life and death of the > station. There'd just be more money in the coffers. > > > > Get real, Wendy. Pacifica is dying from people protecting their > friend's cushy needless unnecessary employment. It could all be done > by volunteers just like KPFT. > > > > K > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Wendy Schroell <wendy@> > > To: Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@ ...> > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:41:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] [grc] [Fwd: Pacifica in grave > financial crisis - Part 1] > > > > Kevin, WBAI doesn't have a position called Artistic Director, it's > Director of the Arts Department. They also have a Director of the > Public Affairs Department. I don't know where you get the idea that > these are non-positions, but I don't think it's helpful for you to say > such a thing on a national list without knowing what you're talking > about. > > > > wendy > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@ ...> wrote: > > > > "I hope Kevin was wanting to eliminate the positions, not the > employees? (: " > > > > I want to eliminate the positions. If an employee is living off the > foundation tit with no job function I want to eliminate them as well. > > > > Here's a syllogism: > > > > 1: WBAI is going out of business. > > 2: WBAI has positions such as "Artistic Director" that does't > provide a function. > > > > Conclusion: By removing the functionless post, the functionless > employee goes with it. > > > > K > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: "PhelpsMediation@ ..." <PhelpsMediation@ ...> > > To: bks@; fulcrumsofchange@ ... > > Cc: pnb@; kpfalsb@ > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:01:59 PM > > Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] [grc] [Fwd: Pacifica in grave > financial crisis - Part 1] > > > > > > > > In a message dated 6/12/2008 12:25:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, bks@ > > > > usa.net writes: > > > > On Jun 11, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Kevin White wrote: > > > > > ...Are there anymore secret employees at the national office we need > > > to eliminate? I know that WBAI has an "Artistic Director." Does WBAI > > > need one of those? Would it make a difference one way or the other > > > if he or she were not there?... > > > > > > > > > > I hope Kevin was wanting to eliminate the positions, not the > employees? (: > > > > > > Richard Phelps > > Attorney/Mediator _PhelpsMediation. com_ (http://phelpsmediat ion.com/) > > 405 14th St. Suite 508 > > Oakland, CA 94612 > > 510 268-9919, Fax 268-0368 _PhelpsMediation@ ..._ > > (mailto:phelpsmedia tion@) > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ==== >