K, Unlike a lot of your contributions, this comment/observation is most disappointing at best and reflects poorly at worst. How ever many hours of immunology and bio-chemistry you might have had, has not (as yet) reveled to you the Aids Industry Hoax/Game. So, your grand and sweeping pronouncements on this issue are undeserving of serious consideration. BTW, my friend, how many children or grand children from your loins would be at risk? The thought of even one suffering parent with a sick child, made so by unproven and unnecessary vaccines, makes my blood run hotter. This is an intelligence test:They have laws passed that protect and significantly restrict their industry from product liability's, judgments and awards, then they force the use of those same products on the general public. Who could this possibly accrue to the short and longterm bottom line of? The real facts and reasons for the extension of Europeans Life Expectancy in the past 200 years is mainly, if not solely owed to improvements in habits of personal hygiene, public sanitation, clean water, and better diets, not doctors, pharmaceuticals, vaccines and differently not the CDC. For every disease, so-called "modern medicines' has "prevented or cured" it has created many more, and many are more lethal and threatens not just human life, but perhaps life (as we know it) on Planet Earth it self. Link to audio file clip, of Anti Africa and African targeted Aids European, BS. Cut and paste: https://backup.filesanywhere.com/v.asp?v=%8Bjb%88Xfo%A7%B3%97 ...made in america, Abati Visit: myspace.com/reallyquittingamerica For the "people made in america". --- On Fri, 6/6/08, Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] NY State mandatory vaccine program about to be implemented To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "sasha" <sasha@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 7:06 AM I understand not wanting to be forced to do anything, but why wouldn't you want to vaccinate your kids? "Big Pharma's lies" seems a bit rhetorical don't you think? Are you following some fashionable formula for radicalism or are you actually thinking what's right and what's wrong? K ----- Original Message ---- From: sasha <sasha@greens. org> To: sasha <sasha@greens. org> Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 2:35:51 AM Subject: [NewPacifica] NY State mandatory vaccine program about to be implemented IMPORTANT HEALTH FREEDOM INFORMATION PLEASE FORWARD VERY WIDELY TO SUBSCRIBE TO HEALTH FREEDOM eALERTS, CLICK HERE (http://www.healthfr eedomusa. org/index. php?page_ id=187) Special "Mouse Warrior" Action Alert: Voting to Turn the Police Power of the State into the Power of the Police State With a Needle - Legislature to vote June 10th COMPULSORY VACCINATION IS COMING TO NEW YORK STATE KIDS UNLESS YOU ACT NOW! WE HAVE 5 DAYS Under proposed Assembly Bill 10942, NY surrenders its control of public health and makes every vaccination recomended by the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices mandatory. For the first time, vaccination of infants and toddlers becomes mandatory. Under this proposed law, there will be NO exemptions for any reason. Why is New York giving away its rights to determine public health standards? Ralph Fucetola JD says in his blog (http://vitaminlawye rhealthfreedom. blogspot. com/2008/ 06/ny-mandates- pharma-forced- vaccine.html), "We have to think about the cowardice and stupidity of our elected representatives and ask why they are willing to surrender state sovereignty to the dominion of Big Pharma's lies, while surrendering our well-being. They are turning the Police Power of the State into the Police State of Power!" Take these 5 Action Steps Now and Alert Your Contacts to Do the Same First NJ, Now NY: Is Your State Next? YOU DO NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN NEW YORK STATE TO TELL NY LEGISLATORS THAT COMPULSORY IS VACCINATION A REALLY BAD IDEA! Click here to tell NY State Legislators and your Congressional Members to protect your health and your rights! http://salsa. democracyinactio n.org/o/568/ t/1128/campaign. jsp?campaign_ KEY=21833 Click here to sign the Tiburon Declaration against forced drugging and vaccination http://www.healthfr eedomusa. org/index. php?p=460 Click here to make your tax deductible recurring donation to sustain Natural Solutions Foundation, your Health Freedom's best friend http://www.healthfr eedomusa. org/index. php?page_ id=189 Click here to order the brand new, long awaited Natural Solutions Foundation downloadable eBook on What You Need to Know About Vaccine Exemptions https://salsa. democracyinactio n.org/o/568/ t/1130/shop/ shop.jsp? storefront_ KEY=525 This outstanding 122 page compendium of information is available as a special introductory offer for $24.95 until the end of June. After that, the price will be $39.95. Act now. Give every parent you know a copy of this unique book, written by leading vaccination attorney Alan G. Phillips, Esq. Click here to join the vibrant No-Forced-Vaccinati on Yahoo! group http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/no- forced-vaccinati on/join New York State: the New "Needle Park" On June 10, 2008, unless we get enough voices to holler out loud, the New York Legislature pass "Fast Track" legislation making all shots recommended by the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) mandatory for EVERY child in New York. No exemptions of conscience or religion No objections by parents of already vaccine-damaged (or other vulnerable) kids. No private school exemptions. None. Gone. Vaporized by vote. Is that OK with you? It's certainly NOT OK with me. Forget Parental Rights Forget Civil Rights Forget Exemptions. Instead, every shot reccommended by ACIP, no matter how absurd or dangerous, will be mandatory. (The dangerous and unproven HPV vaccine will be mandated for your daughter) Every one. Under the current ACIP vaccination schedule, children between the ages of birth and 7 years receive 47 doses of vaccines! No science shows this is either safe or effective. By age 18 the total is 67 vaccine doses for boys and 70 for girls (including the absurd and dangerous HPV vaccines). No science shows this is either safe or effective. Quite a lot of science shows that it is neither. New vaccines are being added at a furious clip: there is no profit in vaccines unless they are widely administered. How much more widely can they be administered? Well, how about compulsory vaccination for you, too? Under the same agency's recommended schedule, if you manage to survive to age 70 and you have been unlucky enough to be "fully vaccinated", you have received a walloping 70 vaccine doses since age 18 for a life-long total of 160 doses (men), 163 for women. And that doesn't even begin to deal with "special" vaccines like smallpox, "Avian Flu" or other "Pandemic" vaccinations. Nor does it include travel vaccines like Yellow Fever (which General Stubblebine and I routinely refuse, by the way). Your response is probably, "What are they trying to do? Kill us?" Well, that's probably not a bad guess. President Bush has proposed military quarantines of whole sections of the population re: Avian flu or other pandemic. Oct. 2007 executive order from President Bush that directed HHS to establish a task force to plan for potential catastrophes like a terrorist attack, pandemic influenza or a natural disaster that would ensure full use of Department of Defense resources. Once a "pandemic" is declared and martial law follows (triggered at the drop of that deadly word by the head of Health and Human Services or the White House), refusal to accept "Pandemic vaccination" will lead to your "relocation/ quarantine" by either US forces or the Canadian army (following the February 14, 2008 treaty announced by US Army North Com and the Canadian Military). The 2006 Defense Authorization Act expanded the 1807 Insurrection Act to allow the President to declare Martial Law and send in the Military not only for insurrections, but also any "natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition," with both "incident" or "condition" not defined nor limited. Halliburton has built a constellation of concentration camps (sort of our very own Gulag Archipelago) across the U.S. - are these camps for infected patients, or civil libertarians and nonviolent dissidents? Flu Shots and Alzheimer's Disease I do not believe there is such a thing as a "Green Vaccine", despite its lovely ring. Even green vaccines are dangerous because they introduce antigenic materials into the body which are neither safe nor effective in preventing disease and which damage the immune system. But if you still believe vaccines are safe, effective or both, and you want to give your child a toxic brew, please, be my guest. Why doesn't that right extend on the other direction? Yesterday celebrities, parents, doctors and others marched to "Green Vaccines" in Washington and "get unnecessary toxins out of vaccines". Does that mean that there are, in fact, "necessary" toxins in vaccines? It supposes that safe vaccines without, for example, mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, monosodium glutamate, aspartame, cancer-causing viruses, human fetal tissues, stealth viruses and the rest of the witches' brew can, in fact, be made. Let's assume that they can, just for the sake of argument. There is nothing, nothing, I repeat nothing, in the non-commercial scientific literature which confirms the hypothesis that vaccines are related to the decrease in epidemic diseases (hygiene did that) or an increase in public health. There is nothing which confirms the safety of early and multiple vaccine doses. Nothing, although there is, of course, a vast amount of propaganda and junk science to assert it, but nothing to prove it. My mother recently died of Alzheimer's Disease. She took her flu shots regularly because her doctor urged her to. Is my mother dead, after years of sorrow for herself and her family, because of her obedience to her mis-informed doctor? Consider this: "According to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of our times (nearly 850 papers in peer review journals): If an individual has had 5 consecutive flu shots between 1970 and 1980 (the years studied) his/her chances of getting Alzheimer's Disease is 10 times higher than if he/she had one, 2 or no shots. Dr. Fudenberg said it was so and that it was due to mercury and aluminum that is in every flu shot. The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the brain causes cognitive dysfunction. Flu shots contain 25 micrograms of mercury. One microgram is considered toxic." http://www.royalrif e.com/flu_ shots.html Five consecutive flu shots? Children by age 4.5 have had 5 consecutive flu shots. Will the 50% Alzheimer's incidence in people over 80 increase to 100%? What about for people age 70 who will have had 71 consecutive flu shots? And what about the 1 to 3 micrograms of mercury that the CDC now admits remains in all vaccines as an undisclosed "trace" contaminant? See the AgeofAutism. com web site for the email exchange with CDC on this. The Federal Government holds that vaccine issues belong to the states and their position is "merely advisory." New York is surrendering its responsibility to the 15 member board of the ACIP. Why? Could it be that our strong advocacy and others letting people know about the dangers of vaccination threatens to undermine the tremendous profits inherent in vaccination? Could it be that although, to quote the May 21, 2008 NY Times article, : "the U.S. currently enjoys the highest immunization rate ever; 77% of children embarking on the first day of school are completely up to date on their recommended doses and most of the remaining children are missing just a few shots." We also enjoy the world's highest rates of autism (currently 1 boy in 60 in New Jersey!), pediatric diabetes, neurological disorders, MS, Asthma, Pediatric cancer, etc. "Under the New York law, both your child's doctor and you will be required to maintain and provide burdensome documentation of the inoculated status of your child. If you lose your child's papers? Reinnoculation. If you doubt that, ask the parents of the 1100 kids revaccinated at gun point in Prince George's County MD last November when the school district admitted that they had lost the kid's records and re-immunized them anyway! And ask the parents of the other 1200 kids vaccinated that day while police with attack dogs watched - despite the fact that MD is an exemption state. If you refuse vaccines in NY and don't give your child the opportunity to develop autism, asthma, diabetes, neurological disorders, and all the other possible consequences of immunization, including convulsions and death, you will very likely lose your child and go to jail. Since there is no reason at all to believe that this lucrative, and insane, mandatory vaccination requirement will stop at age 18, I believe that we can expect laws mandating adult vaccination as well. Even if you are still among those who believe that vaccination has a place in health, and I must admit, I no longer am, there is no place for unconstitutional and deadly mandatory requirements in health. Click here https://salsa. democracyinactio n.org/o/568/ t/1130/shop/ shop.jsp? storefront_ KEY=525 to read the articulate and eloquent rebuttal of the 9 absurd and unscientific points in the NYTimes article. This is a battle we must win in a war we must not lose. It's up to you. If this is important enough to you, you WILL take action, donate to the Natural Solutions Foundation, purchase the Vaccine Exemption eBook and alert your contacts. MOUSE WARRIORS: IT'S TIME TO ACT!Yours in health and freedom, Dr. Rima Rima E. Laibow, MD Medical Director Natural Solutions Foundation www.HealthFreedomUS A.org