Kevin and Melinda don't read my messages, because I'm "not nice" and "get personal", but some of the other readers (if anyone reads what Kevin and Melinda chat about) might want to see how widely their fantasies of The Big City and the Crazy WBAI LSB vary from the actual circumstances. Here is what I said before: Posted Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:31 pm at PacificaRadioWaves: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Re: Executive Sessions for everything -- and Location Needed for the Secret Session There is at least one and possibly two people I know of who will probably be identified by name in this closed session, and be described as disruptive and (in one case, especially, a really really BIG guy) potentially violent. [I was eye-ball to eye-ball with him at the last LSB meeting and helped "ease him out" at the prior meeting.] It would be wrong to describe them this way publicly, and moreover risky to do so for legal reasons. --Frank LeFever ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And now, to make something else explicit, the people in question (whose rights of privacy would be violated if the LSB discussed them in public session) are not members of the LSB, nor staff members: they are members of "the public" who regularly show up and hold the entire meeting hostage to their diatribes and perambulations for as long as it takes for several of us to persuade them to leave. There is at least one LSB member who has been known to bring a "concealed" weapon (pistol visible only when his jacket is opened just right), but he is not the target of this executive session. There is a former LSB member (defeated in her bid for re-election) who had been banned from the station for physical assault on more than one fellow-delegate, but she is not the target of this closed session. There is at least one staff member who has been involved in "fisticuffs" in the station, but he is not the target. The session is to be closed to prevent charges of slander which might be the response of one or more members of "the public" to their being discussed frankly in open session. --Frank LeFever > From: Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] [PacificaRadiowaves] Re: Fw: > [WBAI-LSB-PUBLIC] Executive session, July 23 > To: PacificaRadiowaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, jdemaegt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, > NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, > rocklandfriendsofwbai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pacificaradiowaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, > freekpfk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pnb@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 3:31 PM > Actually, no Melinda. The by laws already hold the promise > of "transparency and community" radio. The PNB is > the one holding back. And since these are public by laws, > having a better foundation council (that doesn't work > toward solely for cash settlements and dragging other > court cases way past their reasonable end date) might be > the solution. Radio stations don't usually get sued by > fired employees; they stay fired. Only Pacifica seems to > have to pay and pay and pay. > One good sound way of preventing future lawsuits is for the > PNB to FOLLOW THEIR OWN BY LAWS! > Respectfully speaking, Melinda, you can also tell that to > Mrs. Loopner. > K > BTW: since it's not covered under executive session > according to our by laws, just who is the "potentually > violent" PNB member? Has he committed the crime yet, or > is being tried for future crimes that haven't happened > yet? > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Melinda Iley-Dohn <Iley_dohn@xxxxxxxxx> > To: PacificaRadiowaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > jdemaegt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > rocklandfriendsofwbai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > pacificaradiowaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > freekpfk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 1:08:41 PM > Subject: Re: [PacificaRadiowaves] Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] > Fw: [WBAI-LSB-PUBLIC] Executive session, July 23 > > > Hello Mrs Loopner! This is a prime example of what I have > been talking about. The station is full of vultures who are > only so happy to cut open further this already bleeding > radio station. > Their sharks on retainers are circling in the East River > waiting for their first opportunity. > > WHY do they hold executive sessions for everything but > public comment? Even Homer > Simpson would exclaim..... "Do'OH!". When > people will start working for the betterment > of the community, which HAPPENS to be one of the largest > markets in creation.... THEN > we will see transparency and community radio. Who knows? > They COULD turn a profit, > quit taking hard earned contributions from other stations > and they could grow to be a > stronger organization. This is exasperating! > > Peace and Love to you and yours....... > Melinda Iley-Dohn > Read a Blog- A gulity pleasure and You can learn!Leave > your opinion so they can know you were there too! > http://johnmccainis bushlite. blogspot. com/ - > http://slaverynever existed.com/ > http://texaslovesob ama.blogspot. com/ - http://muckraker- > gg.blogspot. com/ > > Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@ yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm tired of my rights being taken away because of an > unnamed "emergency." > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "jdemaegt@sbcglobal .net" > <jdemaegt@sbcglobal. net> > To: NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com; fulcrumsofchange@ > pacificana. org; rocklandfriendsofwb ai@yahoogroups. com; > pacificaradiowaves@ yahoogroups. com; freekpfk@yahoogroup > s.com > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:10:43 AM > Subject: [Fulcrumsofchange] Fw: [WBAI-LSB-PUBLIC] Executive > session, July 23 > > So (see the post below) even though the > "Executive session" is not > allowed by the By-Laws then call one anyway and everyone > will probably agree > so go ahead with an "Executive Session" that is > in admitted violation of the > By-Laws. Wow - that is the very essence of Pacifica. > (Although the person > who wrote the post below seems very honest and sincere in > her suggestions to > do this.) > > Jim "By-Laws or laws of any type or listeners > rights of any type - NO > WAY that would not be Pacifica." D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "wbai afishman" <afwbai@yahoo. com> > To: <WBAI-LSB-PUBLIC@ yahoogroups. com>; > <afwbai@yahoo. com> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:13 AM > Subject: [WBAI-LSB-PUBLIC] Executive session, July 23 > > > > > > > > > > Mitchel et al, > > > > I do not believe that an emergency session or an > emergency change of time > > (too many members may not be able to reschedule at > all) for a meeting can > > be called by one member of the LSB alone. If there > is not time for the > > whole board to be consulted, the officers may decide > this, but they must > > discuss this somehow and then notify each member by > phone. > > > > Nor do the grounds offered fall into the confines for > calling an executive > > session of the board, serious as they might be. > > > > I think the best way to handle this is to make a > motion at the top of the > > meeting on July 23 (Robert's Rules must provide a > way to do this), explain > > that though this issue does not strictly fall within > the confines of an > > executive session, that people must be protected, > physically, and request > > that the board agree immediately to begin the meeting > in executive session > > and to beg the listeners' patience in this > emergency, and to wait for the > > start of the public session at x o'clock. This > motion will certainly > > pass. > > > > > > Andrea > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > This is the official listserve for the WBAI Local > Station Board. Only > > posts from members of the Board will be accepted here, > and if you receive > > a "post not accepted" message, it is because > you tried to post but are not > > a member of the Board. This listserve will be a > repository for all Minutes > > and non-Confidential documents and discussions of the > Board. As part of > > our attempts to increase transparency, all of these > documents may be > > viewed by the public here.Yahoo! Groups Links > >