Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again



Stephen, I appreciate what you are saying but frankly I speak as a person who 
HAS heard Ralph Nader. I last heard him speak four years ago at Rice 
University. I was a fan of his in high school when he was a trail blazer for 
consumers. As a President, I just don't think that he needs to run. With him 
running because I don't want even the slimmest possiblity for McCain to win. He 
is a scary guy. He doesn't wield enough influence anymore to really win but all 
of the votes are dear this time even more than four years ago.
   
  The scary thing is that he will most likely not only keep the current wars 
going but I see him as an unknown evil. We have already seen him sell out on 
torture this past month. If a man who is physically still affected by five 
years of torture can buy into water boarding and the Bush, mess we may really 
be in for a huge horror if he is heir apparent to this legacy.

stephan <sgeras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
            Melinda, I miscommunicated....I didn't want to address anyone's 
eloquence....I'm unquestionably infected by the sheer elegance of Obama's 
oratory. I was referring to a quality of mind, not to be mistaken for "natural 
intelligence", but quite simply nurtured over time through effort, 
singlemindedness, and unrelenting, uncompromising, ferocious attention. It's 
the same as the state of mind of some artists or research scientists. This 
quality of mind prolly isn't what is generally considered "presidential" in the 
USA. Can you imagine an Eli Weisel elected to be president here? Mr. Nader is 
no simpleton, nor is he a fool, nor is he a handsome all-american.  And, above 
all, his ego is just as strong as anyone elses. I'm beginning to think that 
these are the reasons why no-one can hear him. 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Melinda Iley-Dohn 
  To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:15 AM
  Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the of mind  Slander Begins 
Again
  

      tionWe don't elect a President because they speak eloquently. We elect a 
President because
  we hope that they represent US not their own brillance. Part of why Obama is 
gaining such
  momentum is that he talks about including Americans in this effort to bring 
back our country
  to us. Hillary is about "I am ready to do the job on day one". So what? We 
don't care about her being able to go in and do what she wants to do without 
including the people who she is supposed to serve. We should go back to calling 
them Public Servants. That is who they are.

stephan <sgeras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
        and if you really listen to the man speak and answer questions, he has 
more focus and, I'm sure as a result of years of independent work as a public 
s..t disturber, more coherent information than any of the mainstream 
candidates. He's the only person who answers questions fully, more in depth, 
because he stays on the subject, stays focused on the subject matter longer, 
and always answers the marrow of the question without wasting thought on trying 
to make himself look good and pretty. He's actually a delight to listen to, an 
inspiration for the mind, not eye or ear candy.
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