Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again



LOL....Use a computer.

Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:              I don't think you can 
type a "substantive argument" into a Blackberry.
   
  K


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From: "wanzala@xxxxxxxxx" <wanzala@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx>; NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:50:37 AM
Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again

Clearly you wouldn't recognize a substantive argument if one was staring you 
right in the face, as in my previous posts.

Joe w.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx>

Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:38:53 
To:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, wanzala@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again


No you haven't. 
  
K


----- Original Message ----
From: "wanzala@xxxxxxxxx" <wanzala@xxxxxxxxx>
To: wanzala@xxxxxxxxx; NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:08:39 AM
Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again

And I would add that I have already provided substantive points to counter 
Nalini's assertions and all you can offer to support her is empty bombast.


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-----Original Message-----
From: wanzala@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:wanzala@xxxxxxxxx> 

Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:54:31 
To:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again


Same rules apply to you - ie, you are also obliged to prove your assertions. 

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From: Melinda Iley-Dohn <Iley_dohn@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:Iley_dohn@xxxxxxxxx> >

Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:34:32 
To:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again


It isn't a comparative analysis. It's a declarative statement. You say that 
they are the same but you do not point out any that would bear this out. It's 
one thing to say it and another to prove it.

wanzala@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:wanzala@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote: I defy you to disprove the 
fact that any comparative analysis of democratic and republican positions would 
find more similarity than difference. Clearly you and nalini are the delusional 
ones here.

Joe w.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Melinda Iley-Dohn 

Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:45:44 
To:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again


Joe, 
  
 I would not accust Nalini of being delusional in a phrase that ends like your 
first 
paragraph. We have a word for this in Central Texas. Caca del Torro. 
  
Nalini is on the spot with this. 

Melinda

wanzala@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:wanzala@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote: 

You are the delusional if you think there are meaningful policy differences 
between the sort of people a democrat or republican would appoint to cabinet 
positions. A visual representation of democratic and republican party ideology 
would look like venn diagram, with most of it overlapping. 

As to judicial appointments, I invite you to provide actual examples and 
significant trends showing a significant difference between democratic party 
and republican appointments to the federal bench in the last 20 years.

On the supreme court its a wash, and one of the most 'progressive' justice on 
the supreme court is david souter, a bush appointee

And democrats have either pushed or failed to block - even when they had the 
numbers - some of the most repressive legislation in us history.

At least 70 percent of every vote for a democrat is the same, in policy terms 
as a vote for a republican.

Joe w.

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From: "Nalini Lasiewicz" com>

Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:25:38 
To:NewPacifica@ yahoogroups.com <http://yahoogroups.com/> 
Subject: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again


--- In NewPacifica@ yahoogroups.com <http://yahoogroups.com/> , wanzala@... 
wrote:
>
> No, a vote for a third party candidate is just that. 

That's one way to say it.

However, the only once to actually WIN the election will be a 
Democrat or a Republican.

You are glib about how those are the same, but if you'd spend a few 
hours studying the federal judicial appointments of the past 20 
years, you'd choke. Also, the President appoints the entire 
Cabinet....that's the department heads of the whole federal 
government. If you think that the Dems and Reps appoint the same 
sort of folks, you're deluded. Since Nader and no "third party" 
person is going to become President, I guess you can comfort yourself 
in a fantasy in which Nader will appoint the Cabinet. But on 
Inaguration Day, you'll have to wake up and realize that, once again, 
you've thrown away your vote to send a "message."

I started school last week. One of the instructors told us (among 
many other insipid things) that he voted for Edwards in the CA 
primary, even though Edwards had dropped out of the race a week 
prior. He said, "I had to vote my conscience." I dropped the 
class. He's a loser and wants us to be come losers. No thanks.

Nalini




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