--- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@...> wrote: > > And I haven't heard from any Greens that Nader will be their candidate. The Unitarian who sleeps on the mattress on my floor told me that the Greens so far are not running a presidential candidate. _________________________________________ Kev, Untiarians on the floor? Don't you ever sweep up? _________________________________________ > > Is this not still true? > > Nader may be a coalition of... one. He could be a danger to McKinney's campaign. > > Both votes. > > K > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Melinda Iley-Dohn <Iley_dohn@...> > To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:31:43 PM > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again > > How can you be so sure that the same old tired candidate won't make the Green Party look > foolish by association? He has run several times before and his reuturns get slimmer each time. If the Democrats had run John Kerry,,Ted Kennedy or anybody else who had lost in past elections everybody would be asking why they would think that the next election would provide a different outcome. The Green Party thinks that by doing this that this proves that they are innovative. > > If Nader wants to make himself useful he could be working to appear on these shows as political commentator. If he is so influental SURELY he can get a spot opposite WIlliam Kristol or Tom DeLay so that he could be the voice of reason. He COULD be doing like > Howard Dean by drawing fire on McCain to show what a hypocrite that he is driving around > in the "Straight Talk Express" with a staff of lobbyists. He actually had LOBBYISTS on > the Sunday shows argueing that he isn't influenced by Lobbyists! None of the talk show > idiots pointed that out of course. > > Melinda > > wanzala@gmail. com wrote: > About what? > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Melinda Iley-Dohn > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:16:37 > To:NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again > > > How can you be so sure? > > wanzala@gmail. com wrote: He was asking me if I was referring to what he has seen - well knowing that I have not seen what he has seen, and also implying that the green party of houston is representative of the green party - and that his impression of them is accurate - which I highly doubt. > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Melinda Iley-Dohn > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:04:15 > To:NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again > > > But the point is that he was stating what he has seen. It's the old thing my husband says to me all the time......Have you ever seen a bunch of New Jersey Italians ....(fill in the blank)? > > After fourteen years, he KNOWS what my experience is with them. I have never been > to Jersey without him. He's just using a figure of speech. No sarcism involved. Kevin may also know about your lack of knowlege of us too. I don't know but it doesn't look sarcastic. > He is calling them as he sees them. That IS allowed. > > > > wanzala@gmail. com wrote: He is being obtuse and/or facetious because he is asking me if I am referring to his impression of the green party in houston when in fact I have never been to texas let alone houston. > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Melinda Iley-Dohn > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:11:07 > To:NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again > > > It's one thing to disagree and another to accuse Kevin > of being obtuse when he is just stating what he has > seen. He has the right to express himself too. > > wanzala@gmail. com wrote: Kevin you can be painfully obtuse at times. > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin White > > Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:12:03 > To:NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again > > > In Houston the Green Party is a bunch of white male hippies with ponytails and long white beards. The only women there are a coupled of their wives, the host's wife who makes the vegitarian food, but most come single however. They wear sweaters because it cold. > > They are not very politically relavant. > > Is this what you're talking about? > > K > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "wanzala@gmail. com" > To: NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:21:08 PM > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again > > Where is the green party not fighting like hell for things they can win? And why should the green party's aspirations be constrained by the limits of your imagination? If the green party in germany can become a serious force in that country's government, why not in the united states? Even two years ago, let alone 100 years ago, no one would have thought that a black person could be a presidential front runner. As recently as 20 years ago, blacks were also being admonished to stick to battles they can win and not aspire to higher things. > > Did the green party get too uppity for you? > > Your question 'what if obama wins what leg would this campaign stand on etc?' Makes no sense. Care to rephrase it? > > And so what if obama is telegenic? Is that supposed to be some kind of meaningful attribute? > > You are making cynthia mckinney's color an issue. She was considering a run long before obama declared his own bid. The idea of a mckinney/nader ticket developed completely independent of obama. > > You are no better than the right wingers racist cops in dc who discriminated against mckinney for saying 'she smacked a cop'. That is not what happened. > > Her position on 9-11 is supported by evidence - unlike bush's conspiracy theory that you evidently buy into - and it is inspired by the same fierce independence, integrity and sense of justice that has made her one of the first to oppose the 1991 gulf war as a member of the georgia house of representatives. > > the so-called progressive pols who 'find mckinney too toxic' have been busy spinelessly bending over to the neocons, with 'progressives' like those, who needs the neo-cons anyway. > > Joe w. > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Calvin Nicholson yahoo.com> > > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:39:13 > To:NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] Re: Nader: And Now the Slander Begins Again > > > Once again, we a greeted to another Nader/Green > Party/whatever run. Yawn. This is one of the reasons > I left the Greens -- too busy wanting to grand stand > in impossible races instead of fighting like hell for > things they can win. > > The question becomes if Obama wins, what leg would > this campaign stand on? Obscure votes only the most > ardent political junkies would even know about? > > The GP make it a Nader/McKinney ticket so say "Hey we > have negroes too!!", making them no more or no less > cynical than the John McCain floating the idea of the > shoe lady, Condi Rice, getting the VP slot. Also, as > some already mentioned, shouldn't you be a party > member before you demand a slot on the Presidential > ticket? > > And after smacking a cop and signing on to the 9/11 > Truth movement, McKinney has officially written > herself off as a crank and a loon, too toxic for even > the most ardent progressive pols. > > And against a telegenic candidate like Obama, they're > both going to look flat footed. > > The Naderites and Greens gone from flies in the > ointment, to minor embarrassments (many Greens voted > no contest and didn't want to ANYONE in '04) to a > running gag, along with running a ham sandwich for > city council. > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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