What Was Meant/Said ...Was after a structure was in place would funds be sent.
"Structure" would include all necessary descision making information.
Are you in support of the concept of a PLU, details to be resurrected and
developed.
Carol Spooner and company "taking over' the so called grass root ground swell
to "STOP THE ILLEGAL SALE OF WBAI BY A GANG OF CORPORATE HI-JACKER'S" it became
clear to many that a greater danger was in the making.
The "Carol Spooner" legal intervention had NO Independent Listener
Representation to keep both sides honest. Any and every effort to raise this
obvious omission was dismissed as heresy and ingratitude on the part of a
rabble unwilling to pay for it's own lawyer to join the fray. information about
the detail of the negotiations and outcomes was as difficult to obtain as it is
at present from the Foundation and as often The PNB.
Ralphiel Renteria was our "John Burch", and was quickly systematically vilified
and banished. If we have a "true teller" of pacifica's history in the future,
Ralphiel will be given credit for attempting to prevent the ongoing quagmire he
predicted, if the listeners did not organize to protect their interest.
Anybody have the old paperwork? We also had a draft set of Bylaws.
So yes, you will know what you are joining and that you will be expected to
recruit 5 in 30 days (1 + 5) and promote the "20 For Truth" monthly commitment
(if that is retained).
But first we need an answer from Jim, and we hope other's will step forward in
support of the concept and follow ship.
Melinda, can you STAND in support of the concept of a PLU now?
...made in america
Melinda Iley-Dohn <Iley_dohn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Am I in for what Abati? I like to know the details before I make any promises.
I'm sure you wouldn't mind that. You don't impress me as the kind of guy
who signs without reading the fine print. Please give me a little more of an
understanding.
Thanks.
Emmett Abati Doe <abatidoe2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
One plus 5=6
Each one commit to recruit 5 in first 30 days.
My 5 including myself =6 his 6 = jim =18
Are U in?
Melinda Iley-Dohn <Iley_dohn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Is this a numerical
equivalency of my husband's favorite saying......"That's six and a half dozen
of the other"? It doesn't make sense otherwise Abati.
Emmett Abati Doe <abatidoe2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That's12 + 6=18
Can you accept funds, and if so how soon/
Abati
jdemaegt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Actually Emmett when White middle class people run deficits and do bad
programming and engage in constant infighting and hitting and threats of
hitting during meetings it is called being "alternative" and "liberal" and
"progressive" and it is considered a very good thing. But when Black people do
the very same things it is very, very bad and it is not allowed and they get
attacked and sued for it. And "Black Leadership"??? Yea right - this is
America. One or two Black people might be allowed "out front" (like
Condollleeezzzz Rice and maybe Obama) but the real power MUST remain in the
White wealthy and middle class community.
Remember: Power does not concede without a demand. And White power is
still very much in control in the "new" America - and White middle class power
is still very much in control in the "new" and "Saved" Pacifica as well.
And the idea of a "Pacifica union" is good. I STAND in support of it.
Jim "A few token 'people of color' is good (as long as they do not get
out of line) but please do not let them have any real power - the White middle
class 'liberals' and 'progressives' might lose some of their glory and petty
power." D.
----- Original Message -----
From: Emmett Abati Doe
To: RealPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: pacificaradiowaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; pacifica_now@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ;
NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; PacificaRadiowaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [RealPacifica] Re: Reaponse To Robert Knight
[PacificaRadiowaves] .......
Kevin,
Would it not be a great way for those outraged white Pacifican Members at WBAI
to engage in "Real-Life Sensitivity Living", if they would allowed for the
possibility of Black Leadership missing-up one of 5 stations, as white people
are allowing a "C" Student to mess-up the Nation and the World. Let's not
conveniently forget that other Stations under white control have their own
sorted problems like KPFT?
[please don't give me the so call deficit problem. All Pacificans should be
embarrassed to admit that with a signal that potentially could reach millions
of listeners, a way has not been imagined to sell to that audience (may-be
provocative/stimulating programing like "ON THE REAL SIDE" or sell "Pencil
Packs" with each Stations Logo, like WBAI and create/generate revenue streams
in the millions, a month/year) is a disgrace and an insult to an average
intelligent person, with or with-out dyslexia. (smile) ]
Can we count on your "20 for Truth" ? [I just made that up]
Anyway, can you STAND in support of a "Pacifica Listeners Union", a $20 a month
commitment, with a recruit 5 to do the same; with-n 30 days after a structure
is in place?
It amazes me how clear and pro-active some white people get when an advantage
is perceived or imagined to be enjoyed (no matter how tenuous that advantage
might be) like the once Black Controlled Foundation Board? Yet thease same
people seem mobilized in the glaring affronts to the Law, loss of our freedom,
Truth, Just-us, PEACE and even their best interest...? Or Have I imagined all
this?
...made in america
Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Perrine,
A thousand people can't be wrong. I've been reading this listserv literally
for years. Story after story, personal account after personal account, and add
to the the shabby treatment of Robert Knight. The ridiculous race war that's
eaten up most of the time the PNB seems to spend together.
I'm sorry, Perrine, but sometimes a duck is a duck by its actions.
You are one of the best of us. I'm happy you question everything.
K
----- Original Message ----
From: Perrine Kelly <pkelly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: RealPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:57:03 PM
Subject: Re: [RealPacifica] Re: Reaponse To Robert Knight [PacificaRadiowaves]
.......
Kevin,
Aren't you interested at all in getting to the heart of the matter as opposed
to rattling off accusations from one side of the fence?
Don't complain about the Christian Right, if this is your position.
Your Friend,
PK
Jim,
What is this good work? Election fraud? Threats of violence. Actual violence?
Lies? Ransacking of offices? Race baiting? Undocumented "borrowing?" Alienating
programming? Lost of listeners? The near insolvency of WBAI?
K
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