Re: [PacificaRadiowaves] Re: [NewPacifica] Re: [pacifica_now] kkk Back Obama? No they did not.......



I have noticed that many African Americans use racial terms to mask class differences and educational differences. So when I hear one Black person maligning the other as "not really Black" or "Oreo" or some such term, I look at the class differences, the linguistic differences, the ethnic origins of the people involved, the educational differences, and finally (being female) take into account good, old fashioned jealousy and envy. Much of the internecine battles at WBAI, I believe, were based on class differences, which got expressed in terms of color but, considering the sources of the abusive terms, were really exhibitions of simple envy, class hatred, and ultimately power relationships. And then there is what Armand DeMele calls "wealthism" (coined on the model of sexism and racism), the hatred and jealousy of people with wealth. Examine the "he's not one of us" remarks aimed at Bill Cosby, Barack Obama, Cory Booker, and so on - all of the above seem to apply. I suspect that people of every ethnic group can look at the class differences within their own ethnicity and see a parallel phenomenon. Most groups have slang terms for people who have risen above the ordinary achievement level of their group, and I'm sure we can all recite some of them. So what else is new?
Carolyn


At 4:40 PM -0500 2/18/08, Robert Knight wrote:
First of all, I did not "misquote" you.

In the English language, ellipses are used to indicate the omission of a word or phrase (three periods ...), or a sequence including a full sentence (four periods ....). If you actually read my citation of your claims, you will find the elisions accurately reflected your odd and antagonistic statement.

Second, I omitted Mr. Obama's well-known "African" (actually, Kenyan) roots in order to draw attention to your curious, unsubstantiated and possibly erroneous claims of his "Caribbean" and "South American" heritage.

Please, Mr. Doe, give us proof of your claims of Mr. Obama's

1. "Caribbean" roots; and
2. "South American" roots.

Please explain these unsubstantiated claims!

Furthermore, I am troubled by your invidious characterization of Mr. Obama as an "Oreo cookie." What wisdom gives you the insight to so malign a black man of considerable accomplishment with such a racist term as "Oreo" -- which presumes that black success is necessarily white behavior?

What makes you wiser than the overwhelming (and sometimes nearly unanimous) approval for his candidacy by black voters across the country? They clearly do not consider Mr. Obama to be an "Oreo" or "Uncle Tom," or whatever else your enlightened, antagonistic wisdom may consider him to be.

-RK

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