This is not an argument for go-along-to-get-along politics, but trashing obama doesn't get us anywhere amongst people who find him compelling. MAY BE NOT, BUT SINCE IT'S AN "INTELLIGENCE TEST" BEING ABLE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO, WILL/MAY GIVE SOME OF US AN EDGE TO HELP PUT THE BROKEN PHYSICS BACK TOGETHER FOR THOSE WHO FAILED! BEING RIGHT, HAS ITS OWN REWARD, ESPECIALLY IN THE MIST OF MASS INDUCED HYPNOTIC HYSTERIA! ...made in america wanzala@xxxxxxxxx wrote: But then the civil rights old guard, andrew young, vernon jordan, jesse jackson et al have been selling out the black community for decades - they created the political reality barack obama's generation have inherited. I do find the critiques of obama in the black agenda report a little 'overkillish', he has never pretended to be anything else than what he is. I think activists need to put more energy into shifting the contours of the discourse so that ostensible leaders like obama (and other sell-outs) can be more progressive. As it is, they are bound by the hegemonic parameters and to stray outside of those is political suicide - eg cynthia mckinney. This is not an argument for go-along-to-get-along politics, but trashing obama doesn't get us anywhere amongst people who find him compelling. Joe w. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Melinda Iley-Dohn Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:28:10 To:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [NewPacifica] Candidate Obama (A Black Rad Viewpoint) Richard.. If you want to vote for Mike Huckabee you are entitled to your opiion. I know your're haviing a hard time with the fact that you fave Mittens Romney quit but there's more than one alternative. Richard wrote: Obama. Selling out Black, Red, Brown, Yellow, and White peoples in America?*: http://www.blackcom mentator.com/263/263_cover_1_keeping_it_real_obama_euphoria.html *The article isn?t written from a black racist pov. /R ---------------- From: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:32 PM To: NewPacifica Subject: [NewPacifica] Candidate Obama Political Affairs Mag: http://www.politica laffairs.net/article/articleview/6465/1/315/ Huffington Post: http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ben-brandzel/why-john-edwards-believer_b_86333.html - ---------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. New Pacifica Working Group http://www.egroups.com/group/NewPacifica 'Save Our Stations!' Yahoo! Groups Links ?Put Some Kegler?s On It! ? It?s Good For What Ails Ya!? www.OnePainFreeSolution.Biz --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.