--- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Richard" <rsierra12@...> wrote: > > Take one shot from scripture and give me one example. I don't want to keep > tying up the board on religion nor do I want to start proving this or that > from a biblical basis. This isn't the place for that. But if you wish go > ahead. /R Some obvious examples would be 1 Corinthians, 11 and 1 Timothy, 2. These are well known and oft-debated texts. > > _____ > > From: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Melinda Iley-Dohn > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:54 PM > To: NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: [NewPacifica] Re: Re: Fred's Nonsense is [anti-] Wisdom > > > > I have been known to have issues with Paul at times in his writings. I have > thought that he was used to often to defend some pretty sexist rhetoric. > > Richard <rsierra12@...> wrote: > > Melinda said: True. Jesus was and still is a voice of civility for many more > than two thousand years later. > > /R agrees but adds he was passionate about truth and emotiomally reacted > justly to whomever(s) in whatever appropriate manner. The other side of the > coin is illustrated by a specific conversation with (to be) St. Paul when he > very harshly shouted at him, "Get behind me, Satan!" Arguing Paul found out > he didn't know the truth and who the teacher was and who the student > (disciple, a learner; the word means one disciplined). At times, as it was > then, a verbal slap across the face can be good medicine. Dummy Paul shut up > and opened his ears and began to learn. /R > > - >