Hi Per, They may have paniced due to a few hundred years of cyclical history. Imagine what the former Soviet Union would have been like if Western Nato had made investments in their infrastructure after the fall of Soviet communism. It might have made a much more stable transition that what we seen in the past 20 years. I remember a local network news reader, Ron Stone, standing on top of the Berlin Wall as it was being dismantled, shouting into a microphone, "It could be a trick! It could be a trick!" Such ignorance would be funny if it didn't get so many people killed. Kevin bin Troy ibn Mohammad ----- Original Message ---- From: Per Fagereng <phantom@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx>; NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; pacifica_now@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:38:02 PM Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] Putin says suspects U.S. provoked Georgia crisis Putin may be right. The alternative explanation would be that Saakashvili invaded South Ossetia without the Americans and Israelis, who were close at hand, even knowing. Sounds farfetched to me. It's interesting that the Georgian troops, trained by the US and Israel, panicked when the Russians were rumored to be heading their way. Per Fagereng ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin White" <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx> To: <NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <pacifica_now@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: [Fulcrumsofchange] Putin says suspects U.S. provoked Georgia crisis > Putin says suspects U.S. provoked Georgia crisis > 1 hour, 53 minutes ago > Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Thursday he suspected > someone > in the United States provoked the conflict in Georgia in an attempt to > help a > candidate in the U.S. presidential election. > "It is not just that the American side could not restrain the Georgian > leadership from this criminal act. The American side in effect armed and > trained > the Georgian army," Putin said in an interview with CNN, part of which was > broadcast on Russian state television. > "Why ... seek a difficult compromise solution in the peacekeeping process? > It > is easier to arm one of the sides and provoke it into killing another > side. And > the job is done. > "... The suspicion arises that someone in the United States especially > created this conflict with the aim of making the situation more tense and > creating a competitive advantage for one of the candidates fighting for > the post > of U.S. president." > The crisis flared earlier this month when Georgia tried to retake by force > its separatist province of South Ossetia and Russia launched an > overwhelming > counter-attack. > Russian forces swept the Georgian army out of the rebel region and are > still > occupying some areas of Georgia proper. On Tuesday, Moscow announced it > was > recognizing South Ossetia and another breakaway region, Abkhazia, as > independent > states. > The United States and Europe demand Russia respect a French-brokered > ceasefire and withdraw all its troops from Georgia, including a disputed > buffer > zone imposed by Moscow. > (Editing by Dominic Evans) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fulcrumsofchange mailing list > Fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.pacificana.org/listinfo.cgi/fulcrumsofchange-pacificana.org >