So are you saying that it is NOT TRUE? Unfortunately although it is a
"joke" it is a pretty accurate description of thye situation at Pacifica at
this time. And until people (like yourself, Kevin) begin to realize the true
situation that Pacifica is in there will be no CHANGE and Pacifica will
continue to race towards its demise. But then most in Pacifica do not seem to
want CHANGE for Pacifica since they continue to do the same absurd things every
day.
When will Pacifica wake up? - Unfortunately probably NEVER - and that will
be the end of Pacifica.
Jim "And Kevin's ad homimen is just one more typical example of the
Pacifica 'activist' theory that personal comments and personal attacks are the
proper method to pursue - Good Pacifica response Kevin." D.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin White
To: jdemaegt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Fulcrums of Change ; NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:38 AM
Subject: [NewPacifica] Re: There is No Actual Job of a Pacifica Program
Director!
Jim,
This joke is so 2003. Have you ever considered resorting to professional joke
writers? It did wonders for Bob Hope.
K
----- Original Message ----
From: "jdemaegt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <jdemaegt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx>; Steve Zeltzer <lvpsf@xxxxxxx>;
Synthetic Sound <syntheticsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Brian Shiratsuki <bks@xxxxxxx>; Fulcrums of Change
<fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
freekpfk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; rocklandfriendsofwbai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:05:53 AM
Subject: There is No Actual Job of a Pacifica Program Director!
There is nothing really wrong with Pacifica or the management of
Pacifica as an organization - it is just that there are a few individual
"jerks" that are doing some bad things.
So let's get busy with some more personal attacks and Ban and Censure
some more people (the "jerks") from Pacifica and from Pacifica related
listservs.
Once everyone calls everyone else one of the "jerks" and advocates
Banning and Censoring everyone else then Pacifica will be Saved. And we are
pretty close to that point right now so the Second Coming of Pacifica is
Near. Halleluiah!
Jim "More ad hominem attacks are the A.N.S.W.E.R. to solving the
problems of Pacifica. D.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin White" <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Steve Zeltzer" <lvpsf@xxxxxxx>; "Synthetic Sound"
<syntheticsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Brian Shiratsuki" <bks@xxxxxxx>; "Fulcrums of Change"
<fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] What Is or Should Be the Actual Job of
aPacifica Program Director?
The old hijacker board must be getting a real charge out of what we've done
to Pacifica since the settlement.
What a clown show! The Last Days of Pacifica are such an embarrassment to
the great days of the past when a much more intelligent Pacifica meant
something.
The crazy people are in charge of the mad house. Will Dennis Bernstein cry
on the air yet again? He will probably short out the board some time soon.
K
----- Original Message ----
From: Steve Zeltzer <lvpsf@xxxxxxx>
To: Synthetic Sound <syntheticsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Brian Shiratsuki <bks@xxxxxxx>; Fulcrums of Change
<fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:51:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] What Is or Should Be the Actual Job of a
Pacifica Program Director?
Hey Slasher,
Maybe you can work on getting the news department and the
environmental reporter and KPFA LSB member to report on who called the
police, why they were called and what the causes of this present
situations are. Maybe management will next try to station police in
the station to "protect" the station. This sounds like the direction
this station and network is going. Since there appear to be no
constraints on management's refusal to recognize the Unpaid Staff
Organization UPSO, have disregarded the vote of the local station
board and PNB to recognize the UPSO and have dissolved the Program
Council and is making decisions unilaterally we will be seeing more of
these kind of actions at the free speech community radio station.
Steve Zeltzer
On Aug 21, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Synthetic Sound wrote:
> I listened to the report from JR and I noticed that although there
> was an eyewitness report to the incident there was no actual factual
> reporting of the circumstances that actually led to the arrest.
> There was no factual information about who called the police except
> that it is assumed to be an unidentified man. So all we know is that
> police entered KPFA around 1 in the afternoon and arrested a
> pregnant worker who was calling for a ride and they hogtied her and
> broke her arm then charged her with resisting arrest, trespassing
> and asaulting a police officer(which is what they always say)
>
> I did note that her race was repeated over and over as if there were
> some significance about her race as relates to the incident.....
>
> Perhaps JR's reporting was courageous but frankly he should know
> that the mission of Pacifica is to present COMPREHENSIVE information
> and because there was absolutely nothing about that report that
> could be called comprehensive and if you ask me, management is
> probably perfectly justified in suspending JR.
>
> It appears as if the contributors to this list prefer flashy content
> free propaganda so long as it is targeted at getting people to
> despise the evil CL, entrenched staff supporting management. This
> report if taken at face value was mostly a waste of airtime because
> the factual elements of the incident including the tape that they
> aired could have been handled in a segment of about 1/4 the length
> of the one that aired. Both interviews needed to be edited and the
> exaggerated hype and alarm expressed by the commentators about
> police going into KPFA handling a call was unwarranted because all
> of the people involved know or should have known that we now live
> under a fascist police state regime with a government in an alleged
> state of war and economic crisis and Pacifica is still funded in
> part by that same "Government".. And since we don't know who called
> the cops or why they were called basically we know NOTHING about the
> causes of this conflict.
>
> Facts are and truth is Pacifica is dead, as a concept as a set of
> purposes and soon as a radio network and with the crap that they
> spew over their airwaves it will be a brighter day for the world
> when the licenses are finally pulled and the stations go dark.
>
> Slasher
>
>
> Henry Norr wrote:
>> Here's one devoted Flashpoints listener who *did* hear JR's
>> courageous
>> report. Hell, I even heard Ranjita talk about at the beginning of
>> Apex
>> Express. Do I get double points?
>>
>> Care to explain what you were referring to when you wrote "someone
>> should
>> have pointed out KPFA was already pillaged by her mom and sisters"?
>>
>> My prediction: management is probably going to ban JR, if they
>> haven't
>> already. Tonight was his second attack on management this week -
>> check out
>> his excellent interview with Iyanna Jones on Tuesday's FP.
>>
>> Henry
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Brian Shiratsuki <bks@xxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> perrine kelly wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> ...Dennis is extremely generous with his program, giving slots to
>>>> the
>>>> likes of the quite creative JR and the Block Report (which needs
>>>> its own
>>>> slot, btw) and others...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> apparently no one on this list actually listens to flashpoints
>>> devotedly
>>> enough to have heard today's program.
>>>
>>> Stan's argument here is the most compelling argument for an
>>> independent
>>>
>>>> Program Council I have heard, even though the KPFA Program
>>>> Councils in the
>>>> past have been milk toast and uninspired in not approving Taking
>>>> Aim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ``milquetoast,'' thank you. let ``taking aim'' reapply with a
>>> different
>>> program council. why not apply to join program council yourself
>>> this round;
>>> terms are probably ending next month (but who really knows: no
>>> record!).
>>> try posing as milquetoast, i hear that's the ticket in.
>>>
>>> It is in contradiction to the argument for a one-person leader.
>>> They don't
>>>
>>>> last long.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, "interim" means just that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ``interim'' at KPFA means usual. non-interim is the
>>> extraordinary, which
>>> exists only about 25% of the time. if ``interims'' could not act,
>>> nothing
>>> would happen.
>>>
>>> No important programming decisions should be made by an "interim",
>>>
>>>> including when or where a Program Council should meet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> i wish the ED would have defined an interval after which his
>>> interim GM
>>> appointment would expire.
>>>
>>> Why doesn't the Program Council--just meet? Why are they waiting for
>>>
>>>> permission?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> the KPFA milquetoast PC (we go by ``zombie PC'' now) did meet
>>> without
>>> waiting for permission. back then, since the LSB had not yet
>>> appointed
>>> replacements, we called ourselves the ``decorative PC.''
>>>
>>> anyway, check out the first twenty minutes of today's flashpoints
>>> in the
>>> archive. you get your JR, interim PD paraphrased, trespassing,
>>> six - ten
>>> police officers, broken bone(s), restraints, pregnancy, race, no
>>> snitching
>>> culture, and assault; no tasers, batons, or pepper spray (yet). i
>>> smell a
>>> process server; someone should have pointed out KPFA was already
>>> pillaged by
>>> her mom and sisters.
>>>
>>> how could we not be discussing this exciting drama with all the
>>> devoted
>>> flashpoints listeners here?
>>>
>>> <http://kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=27972>
>>> --
>>>
>>> brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
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