Graig would it be asking to much for you to actually support something
that will actually bring real world CHANGE rather than just supporting the
same old Democratic Party version of the same system that is doing the
damage in the first place. Or do you just want to try to stiffle any and all
criticicm of the system that is doing the damage and instead just put out
the same old, same old, same old corporate capitalist media versions of
everything like Pacifica is doing every day?
And at least please do not try to keep the information and discussions
in tiny little (wannabe) elite groups that you and others want so badly to
try to control.
Jim "If the Pacifica 'activists" keep attempting to Ban and Censor any
real criticism of the corporate capitalist system then there will be no real
CHANGE." D.
----- Original Message -----
From: "CraigGingold" <gingold@xxxxxxx>
To: <fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<Freekpfk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Fulcrumsofchange] Georgia's Recklessness (op-ed)
> Jim, would it be asking too much for you to come up with something new
> and original, rather than just hitting that same old "Generic Reply"
> button?
> In all seriousness -- I don't know why you think it's so clever to
> continually
> ask silly rhetorical questions like, "Will Obama CHANGE all of this?" And
> we really don't have the luxury of waiting for the demise of capitalism
> to solve all of our problems -- especially when we're talking about
> wars that kill thousands of people in a matter of days or weeks.
>
> I'd say the real question is, "Will radical posturing and platitudes make
> any difference at all in the real world where people are starving and
> bombs are falling somewhere every day?"
>
> At the very least, please be good enough not to punch the "reply all"
> button -- I'm pretty sure the folks that I cc'd aren't real thrilled to be
> getting followup emails from some guy they've never heard of
> for a discussion they're not involved in.
>
> Craig
>
>
> From: <jdemaegt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "CraigGingold" <gingold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> <Bay_area_activist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> <NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> <freekpfk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> <fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Copies to: <forum@xxxxxxxx>,
> <news@xxxxxxxx>,
> <morningshow@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Georgia's Recklessness (op-ed)
> Date sent: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:17:02 -0700
>
> Will Obama CHANGE all of this????
>
> Jim "It is a few individual 'jerks' that are the cause of these
> problems. - the corporate capitalist system doe not need to be CHANGED" D.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CraigGingold" <gingold@xxxxxxx>
> To: <Bay_area_activist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <Freekpfk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <forum@xxxxxxxx>; <news@xxxxxxxx>; <morningshow@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 2:48 AM
> Subject: [Fulcrumsofchange] Georgia's Recklessness (op-ed)
>
>
>> It's encouraging to see that we're not entirely alone. This guy
>> turns out to be the director of the Nixon Center, of all things --
>> a conservative, for sure, but a realist whose prime concern is
>> the implications of this debacle for American power. Even so,
>> given the lazy acceptance of Bush/neo-con spin throughout
>> most of the news media, it's important that strongly dissenting
>> views like this are seeing the light of day in such a key paper. - CG
>> __________________
>>
>> The Washington Post
>>
>> Georgia's Recklessness
>>
>> By Paul J. Saunders
>> Friday, August 15, 2008; A21
>>
>> The fates of South Ossetia and Abkhazia are chief among the many issues
>> that are
>> still unresolved in the war between Georgia and Russia. What's clear,
>> however, is
>> that Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili ordered his country's
>> military to
>> assert his authority over South Ossetia by force. American officials
>> should
>> reflect on the implications of Saakashvili's behavior for U.S. policy
>> toward
>> Georgia, Russia and the region.
>
> <snip>
>
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