Thank you, Terry. It's nice to be appreciated. Pamela --- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Terry Goodman <tgoodman@...> wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Jim DeMaegt wrote: > > > Oh thank you very much! > > Yes, many thanks to Pamela and Nalini for the mild, intelligent, and > fair moderation of their Pacifica lists! > > <snip> > > Without such hard (and free - WOW - FOR FREE!) work by the "moderators" > >and "owners" Pacifica would not have been Saved and Pacifica will not be > >Saved again. > > The labor of dedicated volunteers is very much in the Pacifica > tradition. > > > Free Speech (- of the very correct kind - no other Free Speech can be > >allowed - "incorrect Free Speech" must be censored) is what is Saving > >Pacifica and Saving all of America. > > Free speech is important to the maintenance of liberty, but is not > sufficient to guarantee any salvation. Free speech may be abused, as > we've seen by Jim's example. > > > Can we all work to get the current "moderators" and "owners" of the > >Pacifica related listservs into more Power (POWER - that is POWER, POWER, > >POWER - and hey also GLORY too) at Pacifica. > > While moderation of an internet list does require some of the > qualities needed by a Pacifica Program Director, the two media are > quite different, so the experience gained in one area is not > sufficient for the other. > > > Can we all work to get Pacifica "moderated" and "owned" just like the > >Pacifica related listservs are? - And for Free (WOW for FREE!) also. > > We could use the example of volunteer list moderators as a guide to > balancing free speech and content quality in our volunteer work at > Pacifica radio stations, and a period of recognized valuable volunteer > work might eventually get us jobs at Pacifica -- but it is a lengthy > process without any particular sort of guaranteed result. Pacifica > content is largely produced by volunteers with significant creative > independence. The final mix is "moderated" at each station by a > Program Director, but each PD's ability to actually control content is > greatly limited by multiple factors, and the job is not performed "for > free." Since Pacifica is a public benefit corporation, neither it's > hired management nor its elected governance really "owns" the > Foundation. Though some exercise significant influence and others > have fairly autonomous decision-making authority, all are more in the > nature of caretakers or trustees. > > > Jim "'Moderation' and 'ownership' are what will Save (or "re- Save" as > >the case may be) Pacifica and America - now if we can just decide who the > >(true and great - really GREAT) 'moderators' and 'owners' of Pacifica will > >be" D. > > Good programming decisions are an important part of what Pacifica > needs in order to survive, but it also needs good business management. > Governance representatives elected by the membership have a role in > selecting or reviewing the performance of these managers, but the role > is limited and occasional. The general membership does periodically > need to decide who will represent them in this limited role. > > --Terry Goodman >