[NewPacifica] Re: The Decline and Fall of America



Yeah, "right" is right. I let this go through before I fully realized 
what Fred had said. This is a libel and has absolutely no basis in 
fact, once again existing only in Fred's head. I never shared the 
list addresses with anyone. This is what I mean about Fred: his 
information cannot be trusted. He apparently just makes things up 
when he feels like it. And yet he is a sometime "news" reporter on 
the WBAI evening news! This is no doubt a reward because he toadies 
to the JUC, although he claims not to be JUC himself. And what's the 
gratuitous reference to Cohen? Yet more racism? 

Pamela

--- In NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, siddharta2@... wrote:
>
> Pamela shares the email list of new pacifica with the list progs, 
many of  
> whom now call themselves "independents". Cohen is one of them
>  
>  
> In a message dated 4/28/2008 8:02:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
> abatidoe2@... writes:
> 
>  
>  
>  
> yEAH rIGHT!
> 
> ...MADE IN aMERICA
> 
> 
> Visit:  myspace.com/Visit:  Visit 
(http://www.onepainfreesolution.biz/) 
> For the  "people made in america".  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 4/27/08,  Pamela Somers <psomers1@...> wrote:
> 
> From: Pamela  Somers <psomers1@...>
> Subject: [NewPacifica] Re:  The Decline and Fall of America
> To:  NewPacifica@To:  To:
> Date: Sunday, April 27, 2008,  11:03 PM
> 
> 
>  
> And this is a good example of why Fred is moderated, as part of 
the  
> ongoing effort to maintain the quality of posts here. Left  
> alone, Fred is prone to making libelous attacks against certain  
> people, and short of that, to making pronouncements out of whole  
> cloth like the one that I inherited the NewPacifica list from  
someone 
> else. That has no basis in fact and only exists in Fred's  head. As 
a 
> matter of fact I was the first to set up a list on  eGroups, which 
was 
> later acquired by Yahoo. I volunteered at a  time when no one else 
> knew how to do it, or even thought of doing  it. It set a trend, and
> other Pacifica lists on eGroups soon  followed. And NewPacifica has 
> never been a "private list" as Fred  contends, because unlike some 
> other lists, everyone is permitted  to join this list, including 
Fred. 
> 
> --Pamela
> 
> --- In _NewPacifica@ yahoogroups. com_ 
(mailto:NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) , 
> siddharta2@ ..  wrote:
> >
> > There is widespread censorship on Pacifica  listserves (the 
> discussion kind). 
> > Most lists are  controlled by white people who supported Carol 
> Spooner and  
> > her tyranically imposed racist bylaws.
> > This list is  controlled by Pam Somers who takes a very long time 
to 
> send my  
> > posts and therefore forced my retirement from this list.I was  
bored 
> with it 
> > anyway.
> > She inherited the original  list from someone else but made it 
her 
> own 
> > private  list.
> > If you want to have good exchanges on a free list, I  think that 
the 
> POP list 
> > and the Rockland list are much  better and certainly the post 
> quality is very 
> > much  higher.
> > FAN
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In a message  dated 4/24/2008 4:34:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> >  abatidoe2@ . writes:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sam  wrote: On a related note, who at Pacifica controls the right 
> to  
> > ban/block any member from posting informtion on Pacifica  groups? 
> Could it be Nathan 
> > Moore, who is the National  Program Coordinator or Pete Korakis, 
> the Website 
> > Project  Manager?
> > 
> > What's underhanded so and cowardly, is that  it happened off 
line, 
> and the 
> > so-call good guys have gone  along. 
> > 
> > After years and years posting, NOBODY has  asked me, WHY I 
STOPPED. 
> > 
> > And, Nalini Lasiewicz is  one of the most disingenuous, like 
> another first 
> >  warned.
> > 
> > As to who are the responsible persons, don't  know...that' As to 
who 
> are the 
> > responsible persons, don't  know...that' <WBR>s how slimy things 
> have gotten 
> >  here at "The Last he Bastion of Fr
> > 
> > Nothing new going  on with so call liberals!
> > 
> > ...made in america
> >  I'm Emmett Abati Doe
> > 
> > 
> > Visit: myspace.com/  Visit: Visit 
> (_http://www.onepainf reesolution. biz/_ 
> (http://www.onepainfreesolution.biz/) ) 
> > For  the "people made in america". 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > --- On Thu, 4/24/08, samuelkiteka@ Thu, 4/24/08,  
> <samuelkiteka@ samuelkitek> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> >  From: samuelkiteka@ From: samuel<samuelkiteka  @samuelkitek>
> > Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] The Decline and  Fall of America
> > To: abatidoe2@ .: abatidoe2@yahoo.  <WBR>com, To: abatidoeTo: 
> > abatidoe2@yahoo.  <WBR>com, To: abatidoeTo:
> > Cc: "Emmett Abati Doe"  <abatidoe2@ ..>, "Fred Nguyen" 
> > <siddharta2@  ...>, "Terry Goodman" <tgoodman@ .>, "Daniel" 
> >  <sis_houston@ sis_houst> , "Doris Cleveland" <djcleveland@  
djcleve>, 
> xtx1000@msn. , 
> > xtx1000@msn. <WBR>com,  "Perrine <pkelly@perrinekell ypkel>, 
> kreniestowe@ ,  kreniestowe@ , 
> > kreniestowe@ <WBR>ya, , kreniestowe@  <WBR>, kreniestowe@ , 
> kreniestowe@ <WBR>ya, 
> >  krenies, , kreniestowe@ <WBR>yah, kreni, kreniestowe@  <WBR>y, 
> kren, 
> > kreniestowe@ <WBR>yaho,  krenies, kreniestowe@ <WB, 
kreniestowe@ , 
> > kreniestowe@  <WBR>yahoo, kr, kreniestowe@ <WBR>yaho, kreniesto,  
> kreniestowe@ <WB, kreniestow, 
> > kreniestowe@  <WBR>yaho, krenies, kreniestowe@ <WBR>yahoo,  
> kreniestow, 
> > kreniestowe@ <WBR>yahoo. , kren,  kreniestowe@ <WBR>yahoo. , 
kreni, 
> > kreniestowe@  <WBR>yah, kren, kreniestowe@ <WBR>yaho, kren, 
> krenie,  kreniestowe@ <WBR>yahoo, , 
> > kreniestowe@ <WBR,  kreniestowe@ <WBR>yahoo. com, 
> mortag@comcast. , , 
> >  kreniestowe@ <WBR, kreniestowe@ , kreniestowe@ <WBR>yahoo.  com, 
> kreniesto, 
> > kreniestowe@ <WB, kreniestow,  kreniestowe@ <WBR, kreniestowe, 
> kreniestowe@ <WBR>yahoo.  , 
> > kre, kreniestowe@ <WBR>yahoo. com,, kreniestowe@ ,  
> kreniestowe@ <WBR>yahoo, 
> > kre, kreniestowe@  <WBR>yahoo. co, 
> > Date: Thursday, April 24, 2008, 9:02  AM
> > 
> > 
> > Good Morning Abati,
> > 
> > Your  points are not just accurate, but they are "right on 
> target"! Well  
> > said. Rome never fell...as a matter of fact, no entity on  Earth 
> owns more land 
> > and money than the Catholic Roman  Church, headquartered in the 
> Vatican City - 
> > an  INDEPENDENT state located in Rome, Italy.
> > 
> > On a  related note, who at Pacifica controls the right to 
ban/block 
> any  
> > member from posting informtion on Pacifica groups? Could it  be 
> Nathan Moore, who 
> > is the National Program Coordinator  or Pete Korakis, the Website 
> Project 
> > Manager?
> >  
> > A wise man once told me, "There has never been a single  501(c)
(3) 
> > corporation that has placed a dent in acheiving  global peace for 
> all humans. " It is 
> > safe to include the  Pacifica Foundation in that statement. The 
> recent 
> >  behavior of Pacifica at all five sister stations highly 
suggests  
> that the Grand Old 
> > Party is in control of the  Foundation.
> > 
> > Samuel Kiteka
> > Former Pacifica  National Board Member
> > 
> > ------------ ---------  ---<WBR>- - Original mes---
> > From: Emmett Abati Doe  <abatidoe2@ ..> 
> > HI FRED/ALL,
> > 
> > "The  Decline and Fall of America" IS A MISS-LEADING TITLE AND 
> >  RE-ENFORCES/ "The DecliHE ILLUSION'S RE: "FALL OF THE ROMAN 
> EMPIRE  ", (YET YOU CAN CALL THE 
> > VATICAN AND FRIENDS IN ROME); "THE  RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD 
> REICH" (YET 
> > THE NUMBER ONE  NAZI LIVES IN "THE WHITE HOUSE"); "THE 
> FALL/COLLAPSE OF SOVIET  
> > RUSSIA",(YET THEY STILL HAVE AN ARMY WITH N-BOMBS AND YOU CAN  
> CALL "THE 
> > KREMLIN"); THE "END OF COLONIZATION, THE  BRITISH EMPIRE", (YET 
> ENGLAND CONTROLS 
> > THE USA, AS THE  RECOLONIZATION OF AFRICA IS IN FULL FORCE); AND 
> THE JEWISH  
> > HOMELAND IS EAST AFRICA IN THE SO-CALL "MIDDLE EAST", ....)  AND 
SO-
> ON, AND SO-ON.
> > 
> > NO, WHAT WAS/IS HAPPENING  ARE VERY CONTROLLED TRANSITIONS, 
AS "THE 
> LEARNED 
> > ELDERS  OF ZION (POZ)" LAUGH, OR SMIRK, AS THEY MAINTAIN OVER 
3000 
> YEAR'S  OF 
> > WAR FARE AGAINST "THE GONEIN"!
> > 
> > FYI: I  HAVE BEEN BAND/BLOCKED FROM POSTING ON ALL PACIFICA 
GROUPS  
> WITH-OUT 
> > NOTICE. 
> > 
> > SO MUCH FOR "FREE  SPEECH" ANOTHER GRAND (PACIFICA) IL LUSION! 
> > 
> > made in  america,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 4/23/08,  siddharta2@ .., 4/23/08, <siddharta2@ ...> 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > From: siddharta2@ ..: <siddharta2@  ...>
> > Subject: [NewPacifica] The Decline and Fall of  America
> > To: newpacifica@ To: To:
> > Date: Wednesday,  April 23, 2008, 2:25 PM
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
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