[NewPacifica] Re: DELEGATES' MEETING TONIGHT AS SCHEDULED



You are correct in that the Bylaws leave a gaping hole on this issue, and the vernacular is often misused (c'est moi now and then), but in the absence of specifics, let's look at the principle: elected delegates have been kept from their seats as directors because the holdovers, who are no longer eligible to represent the voters, refuse to step aside and even throw up roadblocks to implementing the "as soon as feasible" clause. The intent of the Bylaws is clear: voters elect representatives who then take their places and elect directors.

Yes, it would be nice to have people put Pacifica before power.

Carolyn


At 6:13 PM +0000 4/10/08, Nalini Lasiewicz wrote:
--- In <mailto:NewPacifica%40yahoogroups.com>NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Carolyn Birden <cmcb007@...> wrote:

 Dear All,
 As you know, there is an attempt to ignore the wishes of the WBAI
 voters and keep the elected members of the WBAI LSB from electing
 their representatives to the Pacifica National Board.
 (When members meet to do this, they are meeting as your
 representatives, as Delegates, not as members of the a local station
 board: tricky but significant distinction.)

 The JUC contingent, which will lose two seats to the national board,
 is trying to keep the new elected representatives from being seated:


 the three JUC members of the PNB are not going to pay
 attention to the will of the WBAI membership, but are going to try
 every trick they can to keep the newly elected board members from
 electing new directors to the PNB.

This skirmish is partially explained by the fact that the by-laws are still very untested.

Even Carolyn uses the language, "to keep the newly elected board members from electing
directors...."

We can state unequivacably that Delegates are a separate body from the LSB, but in the venacular, the LSB is considered the principle body and, as such, the bylaws are more detailed about how to operate. The outgoing people (and Dan Siegel I think) are applying
the meeting rules for LSBs to the Delegates.

I can understand why the out-going Delegates would say that there had been an LSB
meeting already scheduled.

Before anyone starts to slobber on their armour, please understand that I'm not "picking
sides."

It would be nice, REALLY NICE, REALLY FREAKING NICE if every once in a blue moon the various "elected representatives" can solve a conflict without costing Pacifica members
thousands of dollars in legal fees.

when you people threw out a 50 year organizational structure, one of the hidden costs that you apparently didn't see coming was the cost off testing these bylaws. I would like to see some intelligent bylaw changes over the next year, as well as an Operational Manual so that policies and procedures are drafted, discussed, tested and documented to handle
all these events.

Nalini




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