No, the moral of the story had to do with faith, not favoratism. That is, the fact that there are people abusing democracy does not mean we should abandon democracy and reward those who are corrupting it. I suppose you were probably being sarcastic, but with you one never knows. Joe w. Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -----Original Message----- From: Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 08:57:20 To:Joseph Wanzala <wanzala@xxxxxxxxx> Cc:newpacifica <NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Fulcrums of Change <fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [fulcrumsofchange] Re: more on KPFA CAB Are you suggesting that I'm Jesus' favorite? Shame there was never a Book of Peter. Poor fisherman. He probably had dyslexia. K ----- Original Message ----From: Joseph Wanzala <wanzala@xxxxxxxxx>To: Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx>Cc: newpacifica <NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Fulcrums of Change <fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:47:46 AMSubject: Re: [fulcrumsofchange] Re: more on KPFA CAB He said, "Come." So Peter got out of the boat, started walking on thewater, and came toward Jesus. But when he noticed the strong wind, hebecame frightened, and beginning to sink, he cried out, "Lord, saveme!" Jesus immediately reached out his hand and caught him, saying tohim, "You of little faith, why did you doubt?" (Matthew 14:29-31) On 4/28/07, Kevin White <cuitlacoche1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>> I suggest Pacifica do the same thing. Please come back to us, Dick Gregory.>>> K>>> ----- Original Message ----> From: Joseph Wanzala <wanzala@xxxxxxxxx>> To: newpacifica <NewPacifica@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Fulcrums of Change> <fulcrumsofchange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:27:38 AM> Subject: [fulcrumsofchange] Re: more on KPFA CAB>>> Yes. Kqed sent out a ballot to its listeners who voted 2-1 to> relinquish their right to vote for the governing board. The ballot was> not clearly worded and sent out along with several other mundane> provisions. I have spoken to several kqed members who voted against> it who said that there was no forum for discussion among the> membership about the vote and they also said that most listeners> really had no idea what they had voted for. Two of these people used> to work at kpfa as program director and in the news department> respectively. Furthermore, by the time this vote took place, effective> listener participation in kqed governance had been neutralized, sasha> futran was amongst the last cohort of genuine community listener reps> on the kqed board, the station nominated a pro-management/slate which> included the likes of don fisher of the gap which dominated the> elections and they had not had one in years.>> This whole thing happened without any mention or substantive coverage> from the kpfa news or public affairs departments (that I am aware of),> at least the chronicle covered it. In my opinion it was one of the> biggest stories of 2006 from a pacifica standpoint. Of course there> are probably those around kpfa who observed events at kqed wistfully,> if not wishfully.>> The kpfa board should certainly do a program on what happened at kqed,> and invite people such as mariah gilardin, michael parenti, gus> newport, norman solomon and others who ran with sasha futran as well> as people such as dorothy kidd of the media studies department at the> university of san francisco (an expert on partic! ipatory democracy in> media) and henry kroll of the committee to save kqed.>> Joe w.>> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless>> -----Original Message-----> From: Chandra Hauptman <lsbch@xxxxxxx>> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:13:29> To:Sasha Futran <kpfanatters@xxxxxxxxx>> Cc:Joseph Wanzala <wanzala@xxxxxxxxx>, "LIST FOR KPFA's LSB"> <kpfa-lsb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> Subject: Re: [KPFA-LSB] April igm report>> - Hide quoted text -> didn't kqed recently vote to eliminate their elected board? ch>> Sasha Futran wrote:> > Ha! If KPFA can't do as well as KQED, man are we in> > trouble!!!!!!> > Sasha> >> > --- Joseph Wanzala <wanzala@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> >> >> >> from KQED's bylaws, we should try to do at least as> >> well as them - at> >> a minimum...> >>> >> COMMUNITY ADVISORY PANEL> >>> >>> >> 5.01 Organization. The corporation> >> shall establish a> >> Community Advisory Panel composed of persons broadly> >> representative of> >> the communities served by KQED. [Revised May 26,> >> 1983].> >>> >>> >>> >> 5.02 Membership. The Community> >> Advisory Panel shall> >> consist of up to 16 members until such number is> >> changed by an> >> amendment to these Bylaws. Members of the Community> >> Advisory Panel> >> shall be appointed by the Board of Directors to> >> serve for terms of> >> two years. In appointing members of the Community> >> Advisory Panel, the> >> Board of Directors shall act in good faith and use> >> best efforts to> >> achieve a composite Community Advisory Panel which> >> reasonably reflects> >> the diverse needs and interests of the communities> >> served by KQED.> >> [Revised, May 26, 1983 and May 25, 1999].> >>> >>> >>> >> 5.03 Rights and Duties. The> >> Community Advisory> >> Panel shall advise the Board of Directors with> >> respect to whether the> >> programming and services of KQED are meeting the> >> specialized> >> educational and cultural needs of the communities> >> served by KQED, and> >> may make such recommendations as it! considers> >> appropriate to meet such> >> needs. The Community Advisory Panel, in giving> >> advice, may review the> >> programming goals established by KQED, the services> >> provided by KQED's> >> stations, and the significant policy decisions> >> rendered by the> >> corporation. The Community Advisory Panel shall> >> also recommend> >> annually to the Board of Directors a candidate for> >> the Nominating> >> Committee which candidate shall be a member of the> >> Community Advisory> >> Panel. In addition, the Community Advisory Panel> >> may exercise such> >> rights and shall perform such duties as are> >> specified in the Bylaws of> >> the Community Advisory Panel, as are determined from> >> time to time by> >> the Board of Directors or as are authorized by the> >> Federal Public> >> Telecommunications Act of 1973, as amended.> >> [Revised May 26, 1983 and> >> May 25, 1999].>>> ________________________________> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. ----------------Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! 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