You know, or some of you may know, I've been reading German WWII etc. history, most recently a book on the German police. This scares the hell out of me, because change the names, places and ethnicities and it sounds scarily contemporary. Like the building of the fence around the Warsaw Ghetto compared with building the Wall in Israel and trying to build one at the US border. Hey, Lorraine, you're with the wrong group this time, Muslim, which with Arabs and Hispanics are the current targets. And the way the German police troops treated the occupied Poles, Jews and even priests. Shades of Guantanamo and Abu Graib and the West Bank and Gaza. The author of the police book thinks they behaved that way because of indoctrinization, but I fear it's something the military just does to guys as soon as you hand them a gun and dress them in uniforms. I'm the granddaughter of a German-American pacifist, remember. The German left split before the Nazis got in. Like they're doing now, hypnotising themselves with 9/11 conspiracy theories and other junk. Where can we find leaders to lead us out of this crap? Especially when nobody seems able to think anymore. Are these historical cycles built into the human race? Discouraged Avis P.S. A little empathy on the part of persons devoted to occupation might help. on 4/8/06 10:07 PM, L. Mirza at haq4u@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > You are not worth replying to because your mind has > always been made up and you don't want to be confused > with facts. You too need to learn Arabic before you > claim to be an expert of the Quran. Folks may I > introduce pam cooke our resident zionist and > xenophobic who can only post on one thread... > defending zionist occupation and interpret Islam > completely out of context, and never once discussing > issues that pertain to Pacifica in all the years she > has posted on Pacifica related lists. > --- pmmcooke <pmmcooke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > New Pacifica Working Group http://www.egroups.com/group/NewPacifica 'Save Our Stations!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewPacifica/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: NewPacifica-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/