I would add to what Ben advised.. "The downside to this approach is that most users are, in fact, computer morons." To help with this, I have found that you should use local DNS/wins server or a host file and lmhost file on the win boxes. -Steve _______________________________________________ Firewalls mailing list Firewalls@lists.gnac.net http://lists.gnac.net/mailman/listinfo/firewalls