On 10 Jun 2001 19:08:49 -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: > Public System Telephone Network? Yes. > this is known as "phreaking" yes? What you're thinking of is ... but no. There are many secure sites with direct-dial modem lines into their computers for external support or backdoor access. They also use their phone lines for semi-secure information like the standard Mitnick-made-famous "Hi, this is ___ and I need your login password please". - [To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@lists.gnac.net with "unsubscribe firewalls" in the body of the message.]