I would definitely check that out again. $74k for an IP330 is ridiculous. The only possible way it could get that high is if they were also adding in a support contract and software licensing. Are you sure you were speaking directly to Nokia or was it a reseller? Do you remember who it was that quoted you that price? If anyone else quotes a price that outrageous then I would get a breakdown of what the line item charges are. I'll be the first to say that Nokia support is worth the money and you may not be able to get away from certain software licensing details but you should at least know what you're paying for. I can guarantee that $74k isn't just for the hardware alone. I also agree with a previous reply about this. Start shopping around and find a dealer/reseller/Nokia sales rep that will give you the straight skinny on pricing. The person you spoke with sure isn't. opiesan >From: Peter Bruderer <brudy@bruderer-research.com> >To: Graham Zulauf <gzulauf@cardionet.com>, "firewalls@Lists.GNAC.NET" ><firewalls@Lists.GNAC.NET> >Subject: Re: Nokia IP330 >Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 12:19:13 +0200 > >The official price in Switzerland for a Nokia IP330 is somewhere between >US$ 6'200 and 6'500. The VPN accelerator card is some additional US$ 4'000. >But is NEVER US$ 74'000. Even an IP650 in a very good configuration is less >than US$ 35'000. > >--On Friday, June 08, 2001 09:42:04 AM -0700 Graham Zulauf ><gzulauf@cardionet.com> wrote: > >>I just got of the phone with Nokia. I was inquiring as to what the list >>prices for their IP Series firewalls were. The agent told me the IP330 was >>$74,000 US. I gasped and said, "Are you sure the IP330 is $74,000"? He >>confirmed this twice to me. Is this true? That price seems extraordinarily >>high! Where can I find a reliable source of pricing info for the Nokia >>series? >> >>The Nokia website describes it as, "the IP330 is a low-cost, >>simple-to-deploy security appliance" >> >>Thanks for any help! >>- >>[To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@lists.gnac.net with >>"unsubscribe firewalls" in the body of the message.] > > > >================================================================ >Peter Bruderer mailto:brudy@bruderer-research.com >Bruderer Research GmbH Tel ++41 52 620 26 53 >IT Security Services Fax ++41 52 620 26 54 >CH-8200 Schaffhausen http://www.bruderer-research.com >================================================================ > >- >[To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@lists.gnac.net with >"unsubscribe firewalls" in the body of the message.] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - [To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@lists.gnac.net with "unsubscribe firewalls" in the body of the message.]