hi beth what about the military? and sensitive federal entities. the way these "hardened" "top secret" places seem to get cracked makes u wonder if it is any different there then at the state/edu level. if ppl can walk out of Los Alamos with a laptop is all this "education" in vain? SDG, zach uram@cmu.edu "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have faith." - John 20:29 - [To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@lists.gnac.net with "unsubscribe firewalls" in the body of the message.]