Zachary, CCNA stands for "Cisco Certified Network Associate" which is the first in the training series for the Cisco certification track. I would recommend taking the certification if you're planning on doing any network engineering type work as it gives you a good look at routing and the various layers of a network. IVCP stands for "InfoVista Certified Professional". InfoVista is used for Performance Management. Perhaps you're familiar with its competition, Concord Network Health is one. This would be a good area to look into if you were planning on doing any type of network management. MCS I believe stands for "Microsoft Certified Specialist", or maybe its MCP (Microsoft Certified Professional). I'm not real familiar with Microsoft's certification track since I try to avoid Microsoft administration like the plague (hows that for biased). :) None of these are security associated certifications, at least not outright. I would recommend going to http://www.sans.org and looking into their training programs. I personally can't recommend any security certification courses as I have not taken any (self teaching has its benefits), but I'm sure some of the people on the firewall mailing list can certainly point you in the right direction. I would recommend that you try to attend as many security conferences as you can. I've been trying for years to get out to the Defcon conventions but can never get away from work to go. Hope that helps... David Ishmael, CCNA, IVCP Senior Network Management Engineer Windward Consulting Group, Inc. Phone: (703) 283-7564 Pager: (888) 910-7094 eFax: (425) 969-4707 Fax: (703) 351-9428 mailto:dishmael@windwardcg.com mailto:9107094@skytel.com -----Original Message----- From: Zachary Uram [mailto:zu22@andrew.cmu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:15 PM To: David Ishmael Subject: RE: IPCHAINS not Logging correctly On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, David Ishmael wrote: > David Ishmael, CCNA, IVCP > Senior Network Management Engineer hi david what does CCNA & IVCP mean? also I see some ppl have MCS? what is this? how can i become security network expert? i am 25 and i just started taking programming classes. and i just installed Linux. uram@cmu.edu "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have faith." - John 20:29 - [To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@lists.gnac.net with "unsubscribe firewalls" in the body of the message.]