This isn't news. Unix and Linux have raw socket functionality. If you install a sniffer or an IDS on Windows, you usually install software that will give you the ability to write raw IP packets. Steve did what he wanted and got headlines with his "sky is falling" rant. He makes it sound like the day after XP is released, there will be DDOS all over the place. My money is on that not happening. Jason Lewis http://www.packetnexus.com It's not secure "Because they told me it was secure". The people at the other end of the link know less about security than you do. And that's scary. -----Original Message----- From: firewalls-owner@Lists.GNAC.NET [mailto:firewalls-owner@Lists.GNAC.NET]On Behalf Of Irony Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:27 PM To: Firewalls@Lists.GNAC.NET Subject: This is a must read document. It will freak you out - From time to time a "must read" document is published. Steve Gibson, author of ShieldsUp! and one of the gurus of Windows security lived through a major distributed denial of service attack and traced the attackers. He wrote an extremely readable tutorial on it. It's long, and worth every minute. Just one of his many interesting tidbits: Windows 2000 and XP, unlike their predecessors, have enormous capacity to generate malicious Internet traffic with spoofed IP addresses. http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm - [To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@lists.gnac.net with "unsubscribe firewalls" in the body of the message.] - [To unsubscribe, send mail to majordomo@lists.gnac.net with "unsubscribe firewalls" in the body of the message.]